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I know this isn't the "stellar reading" forum but I thought it wouldn't hurt to many peoples feelings by posting it here. I really enjoy looking at the moon (especially since I got that new Orion Variable Polarizing filter thingy) but I have never really sat down with a book and looked at specific details. Of course I know the major craters and such but I want a book that has some interesting challenges in it that can also be learned from along the way. I'm looking basically for a "Starhopping The Moon" type of book. I would love to hear your suggestions and no need to get in a hissy fit over which suggestion is the best I will take them all into consideration and pick one up (or 2 or 3 )
Take Care,
Tom
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I know this isn't the "stellar reading" forum but I thought it wouldn't hurt to many peoples feelings by posting it here. I really enjoy looking at the moon Tom
Indubitably, the Modern Moon, A Personal View by Charles Wood , with lots and lots of photos. I'm now convinced it ain't enough to learn on about statistics and data to keep me interested in Moon and understanding what we're looking at is of supreme importance. This book is also hard to put down once you've started.
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The book I use most often while observing the moon:
"Exploring the Moon Through Binoculars and Small Telescopes" by Ernest H. Cherrington
Here are some reviews of the book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486244911
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Here are my choices for the astronomers 'Lunar Library'. All are reasonably new publications and contain the most recent info and ideas. If you can only afford one book and DON'T need an atlas, get the Charles Wood. If you can only afford one book but DO need an atlas, get the S.M. Chong. If you can afford two books, get those two first. Pick up the others as they interest you.
"The Hatfield Photographic Lunar Atlas", Jeremy Cook (Ed.), Springer-Verlag, London, 1999.
An updated revision of the pre-Apollo classic, with outline maps and photographic plates by Colonel Hatfield. Sometimes criticized for its dated photographic quality, it remains a staple on my bookshelf.
"Photographic Atlas of the Moon", S.M. Chong, et. al. , Cambridge University Press, 2002
A very new offering in the Lunar atlas arena, I have yet to see this book reviewed at any length elswhere. Using clear but rather small lunar images, the reader is given a guided tour through the lunar month. While of an inconveniently large size for use at scope side, its clear labeling and pleasant prose style make it one of my favorites. As much a guidebook as an atlas, I recommend this as the beginners first choice.
"Observing the Moon, Peter, T. Wlasuk", Springer-Verlag, London, 2000
Destined to be a classic. Another guided tour of Luna, this time using the quadrant scheme rather than the nigh-by-night description more commonly employed.
"Observing the Moon, The Modern Astronomer's Guide", Gerald North, Cambridge University Press, 2000
A rather ponderous tome, and in places quite dreary, nevertheless another authoritative guide. This time a series of regional tours instructs the reader.
"Epic Moon, a History of Lunar Exploration in the Age of the Telescope", W.P. Sheehan, T.A. Dobbins; Willman-Bell, Inc. , 2001
Not a guide book at all, but an engaging romp through the history of selonography and telescopic observation. Replete with all the wonderful eccentricity of the 18th and 19th centuries: Cities on the Moon, bat-winged lunar inhabitants, the whole works!
"The Big Splat, or How our Moon Came to Be", Dana Mackenzie, John Wiley and Sons, 2003 A very concise and encompassing epistle concerning the current theory of our Moon's formation and evolution, with in depth analysis of older lunar theories.
"The Modern Moon, a Personal View", C. A. Wood, Sky Publishing Corporation, 2003,
Possibly the best candidate for the neo-classic award! An accompaniment to the Lunar 100 list, similar to the Messier Catalog known to all DSO observers, this single book endeavors to teach the casual but experienced observer much of the history of Luna by letting the face of the Moon tell its own story. An absolute must read for any Lunie!
"Moon Phase Maps", various, Astrovisuals, Inc, Australia, 2002
Neither book nor atlas, this series of 18 photographic maps shows the Moon clearly depicted with all major features neatly labeled. Printed on heavy paper and lightly laminated for outdoor use, these have replace all other scope-side maps for Yours Truly. Produced in Australia, these maps show a southern hemisphere (inverted) orientation. This may take a little practice for new observers unused to mentally flipping lunar images.
"Moon Observer's Guide", P. Grego, Firefly Books, 2004
The newest offering on the shelf. A small pocket book reminiscent of the old "Golden Guide" series of years past. Very readable and complete, given its small size. Some may find the gray image maps and accompanying text a but small for reading in red light.
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Jeff Medkeff has some suggestions for a lunar reference library, though some of these are out of print or otherwise difficult to find:
http://www.roboticobservatory.com/jeff/lunar/references/lunar_reference.htm
As a lunar newbie I swear by "The Modern Moon: A Personal View" by Charles Wood and "Photographic Atlas of the Moon" by Chong, et al. along with Grego's "Moon Observer's Guide" (my first moon book). For some additional interesting information (mostly geological) on specific features I'm finding Paul Spudis's "The Once and Future Moon" to be a nice adjunct to Wood's book.
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They have pretty much covered the best of the available material, so I'll just point out a new and promising (if expensive) addition to the field: The Clementine Atlas of the Moon.
By the way, there are two reader reviews on the Amazon link above. The negative review, in my opinion, can be completely ignored.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0521815282/qid=1087317726/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/102-6932420-8943316
I have looked through it several times and, for all that it is an $80 tome, I'm impressed. It will very likely end up on my shelf in the relatively near future.
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Thank you very much for your responses I think I am going to pick up "Exploring the Moon Through Binoculars and Small Telescopes" first and then maybe try to get "The Modern Moon" or a similar book used.
Many Thanks 
Tom
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That sounds like a very good start.
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Sorry Tom, but you KNOW I have to disagree. "Exploring the Moon.." was, a few years back, a very useful and up-to-date volume. I cannot recommend it today given the newest volumes and best info. I have a copy that is practically unused (for lots of good reasons). I'll sell it for postage. No, I take that back, I won't put it in the hands of an aspiring lunar observer. Too many other good books.
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My favorite lunar tome is 'The Modern Moon, a Personal View' by Chuck Wood. A wonderful book indeed.
I really like Rukl's drawings in his Atlas of the Moon, but it is not worth what the current asking price has become. It sold originally for $30... it may be worth $40 at most. The drawings are the best available, but the text is quite disappointing.
At the eyepiece, however, I prefer either LunarMap Pro or the lunar quadrant maps from SkyPub.
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I mean its being given praise, but $50 for a book! I could prolly scrounge the Internet and print off tons of moon maps, staple them together and call it the "Newest Moon Book" published by the University of Todo.
I mean if it is undoubtedly the only book that is worth while I will do it, but I'm not trying to learn every teeny weeny bit of detail about a teeny tiny mountain, I would just like to know what the heck I'm looking at, or where to look for all these features that I prolly glance over without even giving them a second thought when I'm normally viewing.
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Tom, that is the book I chose also as my first moon book and I'm glad I did. I look forward to getting Woods book, but this one really is a good one. Make sure you read the first chapters...he made me stop and think on more than one occasion.
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Sorry Tom, but you KNOW I have to disagree.
No sense in letting you have all the fun 
First off, Tom: good choice. It's cheap and if Tim sends it to you it'll be cheaper yet.
Tim, think back over the countless Lunar books you've read, and the road you've traveled.
Think of where you were when Neil walked on the Moon. "Exploring the moon..." was written (5) years prior to his "One small step..." When you read this book, with its pages hand typed by an IBM Selectric typewriter (well, the original printing, anyway!), you can feel the excitement as man was preparing to step out into the universe. Only probes had seen the Moon close-up.
I think about explorers and bold ventures when I take my copy outside.
********************************* Now, flash-forward to the present *********************************
Every Lunar observer with a computer needs this *truly amazing* free software:
http://astrosurf.com/avl/UK_index.html
Grab your mouse and rotate the Moon. Click on a tiny crater and see its name and description. Double click the crater to see a zoomed, detailed view. It's been updated with over 26 megabytes of Clementine images.
Nothing I've come across gets anywhere near this program for usefulness. I refer to it after observing the Moon just about every time, and sometimes while I'm observing. Did I mention it's free?
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I have my own reservations regarding Cherrington's book, especially with how crowded the labels tend to be on the charts. But I still use "Exploring the Moon..."n a regular basis, even though I have Rukl's maps scanned from a library copy of the book. Some of the science in the text is certainly out of date, but the descriptive material is still useful.
Of course, being given to second guessing, if a newbie asked me face to face what book to buy today, I'd recommend Grego's book. But I doubt Tom S. will be sorry about his choices.
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Gary,
I'm not saying that "Exploring..." is a BAD Moon book, it's just that a newcommer looking for his first, and maybe his only, lunar refference is better served by taking advantage of the newest publications with the most up-to-date info. For the money, Wood, Grego, or Chong will give more bang for the buck.
There are some things I'll recommend to an old-timer, and other things I'll recommend to a novist. For instance, the link several posts above to Jeff Medkeff's web page includes "The Consolidated Lunar Atlas". While it's historically interesting that such a thing exists, I see no good sense in recommending anyone purchase it, since it trades for thousands of dollars when one of the 250 copies actually comes up for sale. Not that I wouldn't dearly love to have one, but there's false hope and then there's foolishness.
I like your recommendation for "Virtual Altas of the Moon", not because it's the most powerful lunar software available (it's not, by a long shot), but because it's free and will serve the casual observer very well for a long time.
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Well, by now you've probably already ordered your moon book(s), but I couldn't resist posting another link with books about the moon; the completist in me insists. Again, some of the books are out-of-print or otherwise difficult to find, but hey! That's what libraries are for!
http://www.shallowsky.com/moon/FkiescheMoonBooks.html
This (obviously) from the Shallow Sky website:
http://www.shallowsky.com/
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Thanks for your post, I am bidding on "Exploring the moon through binoculars and small telescopes" right now and will probably win it for $7 bucks. That will get me started and I can see which route I want to take for the next book.
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Shot Tom, for $7 bucks you'll love that book. When I bought it, I knew full well that it was old...but you know what...it's a good book and an excellent start to lunar reading...I don't care what those other guys say. I have every intention of getting Woods book after I finish this one but the intro and first couple of chapters are excellent.
I hope you get it. Tom
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Thanks Tom! Yea it was $7 SHIPPED from ebay Not that pretty but it works! Thanks everyone I think it will be a good start for me.
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I have Nortons Star Atlas 20th Edition. It has a lot of various astronomy information in it.
It also has a good section on the Moon.
Heres a link to the 19th Edition
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0582356555/104-3429344-1327963
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