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JSO SCT
      #1288113 - 12/06/06 01:40 PM

JSO SCT

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Patrik Iver
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: asaint]
      #1293234 - 12/09/06 07:23 AM

No comments from anyone yet?

I'll add a comment then: Sounds like a really nice and collectible scope - I wan't one!

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Gerry S
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #1295299 - 12/10/06 02:40 PM

It's not surprising that there are no comments as this scope is unknown to most. Part of the reason for writing this review is to prod failing memories of those who each hold part of the big story. If you are curious about obtaining a JSO 5 inch SCT I know of one for sale from an organization down in California. Email me for details.

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Gerry S]
      #1301726 - 12/13/06 07:03 PM

I bought a JSO 125mm somewhere around 1983 from an outfit in Baltimore, MD. It included the optical tube, an equitorial mount and an impressive array of photographic accessories. We have a long history together - but for the last several years the scope has served as an "accessory" (my wife likes the color of the tube and the redwood tripod). Recently, I decided to try to learn to use some "modern technology". I have used the ever reliable JSO assembly to experiment with a DSLR in my backyard in an extraordinarily light polluted environment.
I am attempting to attach an image - more details if anyone is interested.

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LXD75 SN 8 f/4
Orion Short Tube 80mm f/5
JSO 125mm f/10 on Mizar mount (25 years old)
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: FieldofDreams]
      #1301742 - 12/13/06 07:12 PM

The image that I tried to attach....

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LXD75 SN 8 f/4
Orion Short Tube 80mm f/5
JSO 125mm f/10 on Mizar mount (25 years old)
Rebel XT
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: asaint]
      #1302748 - 12/14/06 11:38 AM

Earlier this year, I saw a yellow JSO 5" at a Toronto-area scope dealer. It looked interesting and unique.
One thing that caught my eye--
the primary mirror coating. There were two rather obvious bare strips on opposite edges of the mirror. It looked like these areas were where the mirror was held in the aluminizing chamber.
Probably more of an aesthetic issue, than anything that would affect performance.

Cool scope!

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Patrik Iver
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Gerry S]
      #1308154 - 12/17/06 01:39 PM

Quote:

I know of one for sale from an organization down in California. Email me for details.




Thanks for the tip, but maybe not the real world. Four telescopes (counting a Pentax spotter) in the aperture range from 80 to 300 mm are all that I really need right now.

It would be interesting to have a estimate of the approximate value of one, though...

Should go quite a lot higher than a C5, I expect?

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #1310263 - 12/18/06 04:19 PM

i like the vinegar bottle dew shield idea...creative

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #1320000 - 12/23/06 06:53 PM

It would be interesting to have a estimate of the approximate value of one, though...

Should go quite a lot higher than a C5, I expect?




I sold the blue one shown in the review for about $800 Cdn (~$700 US) a year ago. There has been a few sales of these scopes (OTA only) in the $600-$800 US range. The one for sale was a package deal with a Vixen Super Polaris mount. I'm not sure what the cost of a new JSO 125 was back in the 80's but I do know that Parks sold the little brother 100mm f/10 Jovian 4 for price of around $1200. That was the price after a severe price increase as it was sold for around $700 or so. I feel the 125 is a definite step up from the Jovian 4.


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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Clive Gibbons]
      #1320385 - 12/24/06 12:38 AM

Quote:

Earlier this year, I saw a yellow JSO 5" at a Toronto-area scope dealer. It looked interesting and unique.
One thing that caught my eye--the primary mirror coating. There were two rather obvious bare strips on opposite edges of the mirror. It looked like these areas were where the mirror was held in the aluminizing chamber.



--My yellow JSO also has those two flat spots on either edge of the main mirror. The flat spots barely come in more than a millimeter, but there is no evidence of any effect in the diffraction pattern or image that I can see. Oddly enough, the Blue version didn't have the flat spots.


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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Gerry S]
      #1323127 - 12/26/06 12:25 PM

Hello Tom. Too bad you had trouble getting an image posted. I was intrigued when you said that you got your JSO in 1983. that's the earliest I have heard of those scopes arriving over in North America. the earliest I have seen of the JSO was a reference to circa 1981. Does yours have the flat spots at the edge of mirror that Clive mentioned? Did yours come with that Mizar tripod as a package or was that cobbled together by you or your dealer?

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Gerry S]
      #1426425 - 02/15/07 06:02 PM


I believe the Park's Jovian is made by the same manufacturer but it's not as substantial as the JSO 5". For JSO fans that want to augment the 5" with a 4", I see one here for sale at a reasonable price so far:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110090483413&rd=1&rd=1



I have both and find the 4" to be a lighter weight version of the the 5". Diffraction patterns are very similar.

Jae


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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Jae]
      #1443682 - 02/23/07 10:21 PM

I have a 6" JSO Schmidt Camera which the University of Colorado used for a year and then "sold" at bargain basement prices.

The optical performance is outstanding, and it's really fast at f/2.5 and has a huge 7.44 degree field at 400mm focal length - like a really fast 400mm lens without all the optical aberrations!

But it's a bear cutting and developing the circular film chips. It's getting difficult to get developing chemicals.

But this one is not for sale...

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Grand Cosmic Observatory, Jackson Hole, Wyoming

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ASTROGRAPHS - 8" Lichtenecker Flat Field Camera, 6" JSO Schmidt Camera
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: AstroArlo]
      #1450936 - 02/27/07 02:38 PM

I spotted 2 JSO's available ta a surplus dealer. If anyone is shopping check out:

http://www.mountain-skies.org/surplus.htm

I like the Mellow Yellow!


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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: FieldofDreams]
      #2031584 - 12/05/07 10:58 PM

I know this is an older post but I just got the deal of a lifetime,
I just picked up a nice 125 JSO off of the A****rt site
for 1/2 of what you guys are talking about.
This is the 3rd one I have owned.
Let me tell you folks I said my vows and am married to this one now!
Perfect star tests, looks just like a mak optically,
Mine does not have the 2 mirror marks on the side, one of my others did.
This one suffered from a little image shift until I mixed up some lube (1/2 white lithium grease and 1/2 30 weight oil) applied on the center mirror (slide) tube with a q-tip. Now ZERO Image shift.. NONE!!!
My 1980 C8 has worked with this mixture for a dozen years now. "FYI for you that have this problem".
These are super I was stupid, and sold my first 2 in the 80's WHAT WAS I THINKING!!
If you get a chance to get one, they are pretty rare and
SUPERB.
They are built better than anything else I have ever touched. They are built to last a lifetime and more.
The focuser feels like fine a micrometer. Much better than the typical SCT's out there. These feel like a fine Professional observatory instrument not mass produced or for sale to the general public.
my 2 cents worth.
Larry

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JSO 5" SCT
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8" Meade SCT On Polaris GEM
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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: orion61]
      #2109134 - 01/09/08 11:48 PM

Congrats on finding a JSO that you can live with. These scopes will appeal to those people who appreciate fine craftsmanship. It's hard to walk past it and not give that wonderful focuser a few test turns. I haven't used mine much of late as I stupidly wrecked the controller for my LN mount. I'll need some electronics fellow to get that fixed.

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: Gerry S]
      #2595552 - 08/21/08 03:29 PM

I've had my JSO NSC-12B for about 25 years, and it really is a fine instrument.

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Re: JSO SCT new [Re: bark]
      #2599611 - 08/24/08 12:29 AM

Excellent review and background history of JSO.

Fred

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