Nauset
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From reading Reviews and Articles about it. Though it is pricey, I feel in the long run it's a good investment and will serve me well for years. I used the website that Dennis gave above. It's thru http:www.lymax.com.
Betsy
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Betsy
Hardin 8" Dob (inspected by J. Dobson himself), Oberwerks 11x56, Meade Kestrel 10x42
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desertstars
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Look forward to hearing what you think of it when it's in your hands.
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Tom W.
SVP8 'She turned me into a 3-legged Newt' EQ
Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
Under the Desert Stars
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. - Galileo Galilei
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Nauset
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Tom W.
Just to let you know, I recieved the Atlas from Lymax today. Wow! I only ordered it on Tuesday! Haven't really looked at it yet, just a quick glance, but looks good. The paper is not laminated, but I knew that. It is made of heavy stock supposedly dew-resistant. That's really all I can tell you know. I was just surprised that it arrived so quickly! 
Betsy
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Hardin 8" Dob (inspected by J. Dobson himself), Oberwerks 11x56, Meade Kestrel 10x42
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Tom L
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Betsy, I went to their website and they said their paper is dew resistant which is good enough for me. I hope you give us a review of it in the coming weeks or months. the illustrations in the book seem interesting.
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Tom 
Tele Vue 102mm f/8.6 on an EzTouch
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desertstars
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Tom W.
Just to let you know, I recieved the Atlas from Lymax today. Wow! I only ordered it on Tuesday! Haven't really looked at it yet, just a quick glance, but looks good. The paper is not laminated, but I knew that. It is made of heavy stock supposedly dew-resistant. That's really all I can tell you know. I was just surprised that it arrived so quickly!
Betsy
Don't you just love it when things go better than expected? 
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Tom W.
SVP8 'She turned me into a 3-legged Newt' EQ
Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
Under the Desert Stars
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. - Galileo Galilei
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Anonymous
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I am currently developing something that may help everyone out with the dew problem. Check in the Equipment Discussion thread area in a few days and see what I mean or PM me.
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David Knisely
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Jr posted:
(2) Uranometria 2000.0: The second edition includes LESS STARS that the first one, but it is really comfortable to use (very easy moving from one sky area to another, a very clever system). There is a lot of DSO, but stars are insufficient to locate a lot of them. I had to say that I prefer the first edition to use at the telescope."
Well, I would have to disagree here a little. Its star plots are more than enough to locate most of the objects plotted (at least it is for me for the objects visible in a 10 inch Newtonian). The reduction in stars plotted is also not as much as you might think. The original plotted around 332,000 stars down to magnitude 9.5, but used several databases to do it (and propagating any errors in each of them). The new one plots around 280,000 stars (mostly from the Hipparcos database) down to magnitude 9.7 on its medium-scale 2-page charts, plus others down to around 11th magnitude on its close-up charts, so the decrease in number is probably less than 15%. I too think the new version is vastly easier to use than the old one due to layout alone, although for me, both have been pushed aside a little by software atlases such as MEGASTAR. Clear skies to you.
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David W. Knisely
Hyde Memorial Observatory
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David Knisely
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Good list of pros and cons, jr! I like the Norton Star Atlas for its wealth of detailed technical information in the front, but the charts are not as useful to me as those of the Cambridge Star Atlas, . . . EXCEPT for the one main drawback of CSA -- (and SA2K, if I'm not mistaken) -- the Galaxies are drawn in RED on the page, and disappear under the red flashlight at night!
George
The galaxies in the second edition of Sky Atlas 2000.0 are plotted in a dark red color (almost magenta), but they have an outline in black and are a dark enough red so that you can still see them quite easily under a red light. Clear skies to you.
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Hyde Memorial Observatory
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Chris Graham
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I dont really have much experiance in Star Atlas but i'v got the Nortons Star Atlas and find it really good.
There is a lot of other information which is good for a beginner like me.
Star charts are pretty small though.
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Ken
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There are so many Deep Sky Atlas's that are excellent for experienced individuals. Sometimes it's an Atlas useful with small scopes and beginner's that are hardest to choose from. There are so many beginner level Star Atlas's that are just horrific. I still after over 30 years rely on and reccomend the Edmund Scientific Company "Mag 5 Star Atlas." It's on plain paper , and my original had been well marked with double stars etc. For the cheap price it's worth giving it a look. It's available from http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3009611&bhcd2=1087607541
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Ken
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desertstars
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I still make use of Norton's; it was the first real atlas I ever used (unless you the Olcott/Mayall 'Field Book.') It's best for planning observing sessions. I don't find the smallish size easy to read under red lights (with bifocals!)
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Tom W.
SVP8 'She turned me into a 3-legged Newt' EQ
Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
Under the Desert Stars
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. - Galileo Galilei
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I got the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas from Lymax a few weeks ago. It's my first star atlas. Even if I have no other to compare it to it's very impressive, and I'm very happy with it.
Black stars on white synthetic paper with very nice sharp print. Spiral back and laminated cover. Charts in four different scales, and a smart system of symbols that make the charts loaded with information.
It was a bit more expensive than others ($79.95) but I think it will serve all my needs in the star chart department for a long time. Thanks wilash and others for recommending it.
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michaeloconnell
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I went to the Lymax website but found that the sample views of their charts were a little too restrictive and IMO didn't give me a good idea of what the chart really looked like.
Would it be possible if someone here could scan a couple of pages for me to get a proper view of them and then decide from there? or would something like that be inappropriate?
I also noticed that the deluxe version of Sky Atlas 2000 is selling on Amazon for $35. What are the advantages of the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas over the deluxe eedition of Sky Atlas 2000...and is the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas worth twice the price?
Thanks.
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Michael
www.astroshot.com
Gemini G41 Observatory+ Mount, Meade 16" SCT OTA, TEC140 Apo, 16" ATM Dob, Pentax75 SDHF, PST Ha, PST Cak.
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David Knisely
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I went to the Lymax website but found that the sample views of their charts were a little too restrictive and IMO didn't give me a good idea of what the chart really looked like.
Would it be possible if someone here could scan a couple of pages for me to get a proper view of them and then decide from there? or would something like that be inappropriate?
I also noticed that the deluxe version of Sky Atlas 2000 is selling on Amazon for $35. What are the advantages of the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas over the deluxe eedition of Sky Atlas 2000...and is the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas worth twice the price?
Thanks.
Well, I got a look at one at the Nebraska Star Party, and while it was extensive, some of the charts looked a bit too cluttered for my tastes. On the wider-field charts, they could have eliminated galaxies below a certain brightness level to help with that cluttering, while showing the fainter ones clearly in the narrower-angle charts. It also included some rather bizzare looking symbols for a few things which could probably been left off the atlas without hurting anything. Its not a bad atlas, but now that I have the laptop running MEGASTAR, I don't really have much of a use for an atlas like that. Clear skies to you.
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David W. Knisely
Hyde Memorial Observatory
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wilash
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I went to the Lymax website but found that the sample views of their charts were a little too restrictive and IMO didn't give me a good idea of what the chart really looked like.
Would it be possible if someone here could scan a couple of pages for me to get a proper view of them and then decide from there? or would something like that be inappropriate?
I also noticed that the deluxe version of Sky Atlas 2000 is selling on Amazon for $35. What are the advantages of the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas over the deluxe eedition of Sky Atlas 2000...and is the Herald-Bobroff AstroAtlas worth twice the price?
Thanks.
The HB atlas has several series of charts at different scales. The A series are all sky charts showing the distribution of galaxies, Messier objects, clusters, etc. This is an A-series chart for planetary nebula.
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wilash
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The B_series charts are a larger scale - 2 degrees per cm. They have northern orientation, southern orientation, and stella magnitude sets. This is a southern orientation chart. Note Orion in the bottom right.
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wilash
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The C-series charts are what you use most often. It is 1 degree per cm. Here is the Orion area.
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wilash
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Here is a close up of the C series Orion area.
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wilash
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The D-series charts cover more crowded areas of the sky. A, B, and C series covers the whole sky. Here is Orion in a D-series chart (see the grey box in the detail above). the scale is 1 degree per 4cm. It shows the Orion belt and M42 area.
Edited by wilash (07/09/04 11:01 AM)
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michaeloconnell
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Wilash,
I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to scan and upload these! Thanks a mill!
I'll take a good look at these and then will make up my mind.
Again, thank you!
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Michael
www.astroshot.com
Gemini G41 Observatory+ Mount, Meade 16" SCT OTA, TEC140 Apo, 16" ATM Dob, Pentax75 SDHF, PST Ha, PST Cak.
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