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Tim in GA
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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: kfred]
      #1297855 - 12/11/06 08:14 PM

I just subscribed too! S&T better do something to compensate us.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: kfred]
      #1297870 - 12/11/06 08:24 PM

Hi everyone,
I decided to check the S&T website to see if one could still subscribe to Night Sky and lo and behold on the opening screen is their pronouncement that they will cease publication after the March/April issue. Too bad, it was a nice resource for visual observers.

Peter


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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: PeterC2]
      #1297898 - 12/11/06 08:39 PM

Well, this stinks!

And I just purchased 3 copies at the bookstore to give as Christmas presents.

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Rick Fienberg
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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: David Knisely]
      #1297899 - 12/11/06 08:39 PM

Hello, everyone. This is Rick Fienberg, editor in chief of Sky & Telescope magazine. There's a lot of speculation on this forum about goings-on at Sky Publishing, so I thought I'd better jump in and set the record straight. My colleague J. Kelly Beatty and I just posted the following announcement on our website, SkyTonight.com:

"Sky Publishing has decided to stop producing Night Sky, its bimonthly magazine for beginning amateur astronomers. The next issue, appearing in February and dated March/April 2007, will be the last. We are no longer accepting new orders for Night Sky. More information about the disposition of existing subscriptions will be available shortly.

"We launched Night Sky in May/June 2004 to serve entry-level stargazers who want to enjoy and explore the heavens but who find Sky & Telescope too advanced for their needs. Apparently, there aren't as many of these folks as we thought — at least, not enough of them prepared to buy a magazine like Night Sky.

"Sky Publishing was acquired by New Track Media in February 2006. NTM chief executive officer Stephen J. Kent explains, 'We decided to wind down Night Sky because it never gained traction in the marketplace. Despite three years of aggressive subscription and newsstand marketing, the magazine showed no sign of becoming profitable. I'm as disappointed as anybody, because it's a terrific product.' Kent adds, 'We'll enhance and improve the editorial mix in Sky & Telescope and on our website to make sure we continue to serve amateur astronomers of all levels.'

"Launching a new magazine is always a gamble. According to Samir A. Husni, chair of the journalism department at the University of Mississippi and a leading analyst of the magazine industry, 60% of new magazines fail in their first year, 80% fail by their fourth year, and 90% are gone within 10 years. Sky & Telescope, founded in November 1941, is now in its 66th year of continuous publication."

Ordinarily, we'd leave it at that. But I'd also like to make a few additional comments to address the rumors and innuendo circulating here and in other online forums.

Yes, we laid off five people last week. That's what happens when you close down an unprofitable part of your business. It was very painful, but sadly necessary. Four of the layoffs were associated with the closure of Night Sky, and one with cutbacks in our book-publishing business, which has also been struggling lately. The affected employees are sharing the news with friends and associates as they see fit; I don't think it would be appropriate for me to list their names here.

No, president/publisher Susan B. Lit was not dismissed; she decided to leave on her own. Over the past six years she led the conversion of Sky Publishing from a mom-and-pop operation to an enterprise worthy of becoming the foundation of New Track Media, but with that accomplished, she was no longer in charge. Not surprisingly for someone who had risen to the level of CEO, she decided to look elsewhere for new opportunities to apply her considerable knowledge and skills.

Yes, Stephen James O'Meara will now be writing regularly for Astronomy rather than Sky & Telescope. I'd tell you why he made this change if I knew, but I don't. One day he told us he didn't want to write his column for us anymore, and the next day we heard that he will be writing for the competition. I don't know what prompted this, and Steve won't tell me. All speculation voiced online to date is just that: speculation.

As far as Sky & Telescope is concerned, the only "writing on the wall" says that New Track Media is firmly committed to maintaining its flagship publication's leadership in the astronomy-magazine marketplace. Yes, we'll be doing some things differently, but all in the interest of operating more efficiently (to keep costs down and avoid having to raise the price you pay) and providing a better experience for our readers/customers.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify a few things. Feel free to post your comments here (I'll be back to read them over the next few days), and/or you can send e-mail to me directly at rfienberg@SkyandTelescope.com.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Rick Fienberg]
      #1297942 - 12/11/06 09:05 PM

Rick, thanks for coming to Cloudy Nights and posting this straight-from-the-folks-who-know response. We appreciate your willingness to go on record here and add a few comments outside of what's in the official announcement.

As I noted in this thread, I very much have enjoyed Night Sky and am sorry to see that the news is true. But, sadly, I understand that the realities of profitability, etc. have to be considered as well. I hope that S&T will be able to incorporate some of the "simpleness" of Night Sky for those who appreciate the non-technical and non-scientific aspects of our hobby.

Feel free to stick around and join us in discussions any time, not just on this issue!

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: ~Steph~]
      #1298005 - 12/11/06 09:43 PM

I hope S&T itself is healthy.

PS: anyone else find is more than mildly humorous that the Editor-in-Chief of S&T is listed as a "newbie"???? If he's a newbie most of the rest of us are in big trouble.


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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Rick Fienberg]
      #1298028 - 12/11/06 09:57 PM

I am so disappointed to hear that Night Sky will be no more. It is my favorite magazine, I have subscribed since 2004. I had hoped that it would start coming out monthly, and I was just about to renew my subscription. I am shocked to hear that it was not wildly popular, as it was the one mag I really looked forward to getting. I learned so much from it...I am not ready for it to be gone

Michelle

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Gordon Reade
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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: JARSHEART]
      #1298150 - 12/11/06 11:02 PM

Dear Rick

This is such a bitter sweet day for me. Bitter because Night Sky is going out of print. Sweet because I just received my Jan/Feb issue and saw my name in print.

I want you to know that writing for Night Sky has been one of the greatest achievements of my life and for that I will always be grateful.

Clear Skies

Gordon


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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Gordon Reade]
      #1298275 - 12/12/06 12:18 AM

Rick,

Many thanks for joining this discussion and setting the record straight. As I explained when I contacted Sky Publishing, Cloudy Nights works very hard to make sure the information found here is accurate and as free from baseless speculation as is possible (no easy task on a forum this large and this busy!) Your post has made that task, in this particular case, much easier.

Like everyone in the amateur astronomy community I am very disappointed that Night Sky did not survive. I understand enough about publishing to know that, for it to survive as long as it did without actually making a profit, a major effort was made to make it work. Having endured the failure of a business venture myself, I have no difficulty understanding how painful this must be for all involved.

Night Sky was a great idea and an excellent magazine. It will be missed.

Thank you again for joining us and sharing this explanation.

Oh, and about that "newbie" status. A couple of dozen posts (in the fora of your choice) should do the trick...

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Tom W.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Gordon Reade]
      #1298290 - 12/12/06 12:29 AM

You know, it's nice to see a company take a hands on approach to an issue and take the time to clarify things for the public. It indicates that they give a hoot about whatever the matter might be.

And by the same token, in taking the time to visit this forum in addition to S&Ts own community, Mr. Fienberg can see that even if their relatively new publication was unable to remain financially viable, it was generally well received and shows that it was a job well done.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Hillbilly_Gazer]
      #1298324 - 12/12/06 01:06 AM

I just hope that Sky and Telescope vs Astronomy doesn't go the way of Meade vs Celestron!

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: llanitedave]
      #1298383 - 12/12/06 02:41 AM

Quote:

I just hope that Sky and Telescope vs Astronomy doesn't go the way of Meade vs Celestron!




I have to say that I read both, and enjoy both very much. I'll miss Night Sky.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: ~Steph~]
      #1298490 - 12/12/06 06:24 AM

Quote:

Rick, thanks for coming to Cloudy Nights and posting this straight-from-the-folks-who-know response. We appreciate your willingness to go on record here and add a few comments outside of what's in the official announcement.







I'll second the thanks...

Roger

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: Hillbilly_Gazer]
      #1298569 - 12/12/06 08:21 AM

Thank you Rick, for the several years of Night Sky. I am another who is saddened at its demise. I have bought, read and passed on to beginners every copy since its inception. It filled a niche that will become a gaping hole after the final issue.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: RogerRZ]
      #1298573 - 12/12/06 08:24 AM

It's too bad about Night Sky, but if this is what's necessary to keep S&T sovent then I guess it has to be. Thankfully we'll still be getting our S&T.

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: square_peg]
      #1298836 - 12/12/06 11:14 AM

I am very sad, I have every issue, including the Premier issue, & read, & reread each issue. I subscribe to S&T, & Astronomy, but it won't be the same without NightSky!

Carol

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Carol


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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #1298856 - 12/12/06 11:24 AM

Any other Astronomy mags avail?

Carol

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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #1298877 - 12/12/06 11:41 AM

Quote:

Any other Astronomy mags avail?





Carol,
Skynews is very simple and somewhat like NightSky (at least I think so). If you have never seen it, let me know I am sure I have an issue or two I can send ya and you can see if it is for you or not

Rick,
Glad you posted the heads up. That stinks having to let people go, I myself went through that pretty recently. Can you shed any light if you will be keeping O'Mearas books?

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Edited by LivingNDixie (12/12/06 11:42 AM)


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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #1298895 - 12/12/06 11:49 AM

Preston: I sent you a PM; many thanks!

Carol

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AstroTech 66ED / Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
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Re: NIGHT SKY Magazine going away?? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #1298926 - 12/12/06 12:04 PM

Rick,

With any resource, but particularly in this case with one devoted to beginners, it's a pity that publication had to cease. It will be missed.

Thank you for taking the time to make a personal announcement.

T

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