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Just want to thank everyone for the input on the Oberwerk 15x70, I ended up buying them.
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Let us know your first impressions. And enjoy!
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I love them already, I can't believe the difference between them and my 10x50 Orion WorldView. Also, I like then fact that I can handhold them for 5 mins. then rest for a min. and do it again.
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There might come a time when you become tired of the holding and then the resting. Obviously you can hand hold them and enjoy the view for a while (good for camping!), but I think you might be equally pleased if they were mounted.
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Hawkeye
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I have had great fun with my Obies, and last night got great views of Omega Centauri and other objects around Centaurus and Crux.
I think I'll have to get or make some sort of support (after searching CN for suggestions) for the scopes, after getting a bad case of the ducks and drakes (shakes) by the time I started searching Scorpius for interesting objects.
Ah, accessories, accessorise, access for eyes. 
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Oberwerk 15 x 70
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KennyJ
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Hawkeye,
I tire of saying this , but for some strange reason the message seems to just filter through some otherwise very intelligent brain cells.
I just wish EVERYONE would realise that unless we are talking Image Stabilised(and even then I'm not so sure !)
15x binoculars are not really MEANT to be hand -held.
If you like the views hand-held --
-- wait 'til you get 'em MOUNTED !
Clear skies -- Kenny.
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Two eyes and a preference to use both
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
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That is exactly what I was getting at Kenny. If you like'm hand held, just wait 'til they are mounted. It is practically a whole new universe to view!
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I do have a mount for them, I just prefer to handhold them. I have a injured lower disk so I have a hard time getting comfortable with a mount. I have consider making one of those chair mounts, but have not got around to it yet.
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Hawkeye
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Kenny,
Like a kid with a new mask and snorkel in the bath tub, I can't to wait until I have a mount. It doesn't matter whether I hold them with my feet or balance them on my nose, the photons still get through and excite my brain. As my new friend night watch points out, it'll just get better from here. 
P.S. Did you hear about the kid who took his new, but cross-eyed, dog to the vet. The vet picked it up to have a closer look, and after a while said, "I'm sorry lad, I'll have to put your dog down". The kid was distraught, "But why?" he asked. "Because he's getting too heavy to hold." Boom boom! 
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Edited by Hawkeye (08/18/04 03:29 AM)
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dgs©
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I've been thinking about getting a pair of Oberwerks 15×70's myself. I am assuming they are at least as good optically as my Orion Ultraview 10×50's. Are the good mechanically? Can anyone steer me toward a detailed review?
I agree, mounted is the way to go. I have trouble holding the 10×50's for astronomical viewing. Daytime, terrestrial viewing is no problem. Why is that? Is it because the slightest movement is such a large percentage of an astronomical objects size? 
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PST Oberwerk Ultra 15x70 Orion Ultraview 10×50
Hand-me-down Sears Refractor (Discoverer) 60mm×900mm
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Erik D
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David,
Check the links to 60+ binocular reviews at the top of this fourm. Our moderator Edz has detailed review of 2002 and 2003 Oberwerk 15X70s.
In general Oberwerk 15X70s are considered to have better optics( coating, QC etc) than other generic 15X70s. Price is a bit higher than other sources but customer service is first rate. I have the Oberwerk 12X60 myself and feel it's an excellent value for my $109.
You can read additional comments about $600 Fuji 16X70 vs $150 Oberwerk 15X70 posted by Lighttrap(Mike S).
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KennyJ
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< I have trouble holding the 10×50's for astronomical viewing. Daytime, terrestrial viewing is no problem. Why is that? Is it because the slightest movement is such a large percentage of an astronomical objects size? >
Yes David , that is correct.
But when people ( including myself ) say "daytime, terrestrial viewing is no problem" that is because we are USUALLY using binoculars to look at relatively large objects.
If however , we narrow the targets down to things such as fine print on posters at close distance or vehicle registration plates from medium distance,things get a little different.
I find that mounting a binocular , even a 7x model , GREATLY increases resolution.
There is a good example from one of my regular vantage points.
Even in most helpful light and seeing conditions ,no matter how hard I try , or which method I use to hold the binoculars , I cannot QUITE make out the time on a church clock about 5 miles away through 10 x 50s, but when I mount them , I can tell the time comfortably.
Stars equate to much smaller objects relatively speaking.
Regards , Kenny.
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Two eyes and a preference to use both
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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dgs©
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Thanks guys... Now for some detailed reading.
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- david
8"Ø Newtonian on SVP, Moonlite CR2, Telrad
PST Oberwerk Ultra 15x70 Orion Ultraview 10×50
Hand-me-down Sears Refractor (Discoverer) 60mm×900mm
"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world, remains and is immortal." --Albert Pike
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Pat G.
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The Obies work great for me too.
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Miyauchi 20x77 binos
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dgs©
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That is one *heck* of a tripod adapter! I'm geussing that was not its original design function?
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- david
8"Ø Newtonian on SVP, Moonlite CR2, Telrad
PST Oberwerk Ultra 15x70 Orion Ultraview 10×50
Hand-me-down Sears Refractor (Discoverer) 60mm×900mm
"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world, remains and is immortal." --Albert Pike
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Pat G.
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Actually it was designed for this use. There is a camera adapter on top and (not shown) a counter-balance rod with sliding weight. I drew it up, my brother had a friend whip them up from some scrap aluminum. They work great.
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Patrick G
Celestron NS11 GPS
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Miyauchi 20x77 binos
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Last week I had Oberwerk 15x70's for one clear night. I returned them for a refund the next morning. But, I had them mounted with an L bracket on my Bogen 3130 head-3211 tripod combo. A very good ergonomics/weight/movement-smoothness match for them.
jay
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Erik D
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Pat G,
I have the same Tripod( Bogen 3246) and 501 Fluid head. With the addition of a 2nd pan handle positioned at the 3 and 9 O'clock postion I find that I can pan easily while my elbows are relaxed and hanging at my sides. It takes very little effort to pan and tilt in both axis because one hand is pushing while the other is pulling. The tall tripod enables me to view zenith without arching, bending or stooping. This set up works equally well with my 3.6 lb 20X80LW or the 8.5 lb 25X100.... one reason I have not felt the need to invest in a parallelO mount.
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Pat G.
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The tall tripod enables me to view zenith without arching, bending or stooping.
Your right Erik, about the tall tripod, it's great. I use the pan handle mostly in the forward position. I will have to try the two handle set up sometime since I have an extra 501.
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Patrick G
Celestron NS11 GPS
Tele Vue 102
Miyauchi 20x77 binos
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