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Stacy
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Collimating A Newtonian Reflector
      #17384 - 10/31/03 03:59 PM

Here are some excellent sites for info about collimating a Newtonian Reflector.

Nils Olof Carlin's Collimation Page

Vic Menard's Collimation Page

Collimation Myths (Nils Olof Carlin)

Bryan Greer's Adventures in Collimation

McCluney's "Treatise on Newtonian Collimation"

Thierry Legault - The Collimation

Collimating Newtonian Optics...by Mel Bartels With Spanish and Croation translations.

Sky & Telescope: How To Collimate Your Newtonian Reflector

Andy's Shot Glass - Collimating Movie

Edited by Stacy (12/06/04 05:01 PM)


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Stacy]
      #17390 - 10/31/03 04:23 PM

Nils Olaf Carlin is my guru (although he doesn't know it!)

The barlowed laser method of collimation proved to be my saviour. Great set of links Stacy.


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #17395 - 10/31/03 05:08 PM

Great post Stacy! I think I blame you for me getting the Orion LaserMate Deluxe , which is soooo easy to use and then easier to test each time before using my scope. I haven't had to adjust anything since I spent the time getting it perfectly set.

Tom


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Tom Leavitt]
      #17420 - 10/31/03 08:35 PM

Here's another link to read:

http://perso.club-internet.fr/legault/

Read all the stuff about "High resolution imaging", in particular the section on collimation.

I guarantee that it'll be useful :-)

cheers, Bird

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Bird]
      #17424 - 10/31/03 08:51 PM

Ah yes, the mysteries of the ancient art of collimation, formerly shrouded in darkness, abstract theory and shame are revealed! Gone are the days when the “manual” forbid the turnings of the screws and when the slightest touch would elicit tiny beads of sweat upon ones forehead.

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Stacy]
      #17469 - 11/01/03 06:13 AM

I'm hoping to try the barlowed laser method for the first time tonight.
I'm receiving my Howie Glatter laser collimator this evening, and already adapted a crummy moon filter to screw into the barlow with white cardboard and a hole in the centre. Bought a dental mirror too, so I can see the bottom of the barlow with the adapted filter!

My scope just spent a week and a half in the trunk of my girlfriends car...so, as you can guess, the collimation is way off.

Carlos.

BTW stacy, I think posting a number of good links on collimation was a great idea!


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #17612 - 11/02/03 01:50 AM

Carlos, the Telescope Gods must surely be displeased with you! Over a WEEK in the trunk of a car! I guess you will get some use out of that collimator if you carry on like that.

Hard to go wrong with the Barlowed laser technique though. Let us know how it works out.

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Stacy

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Stacy]
      #21645 - 11/18/03 02:28 PM

Hi,

I apologize if this is the wrong forum to post this, I am quite new here.

I have access to a Celestron 114 EQ scope (that is to be used for some device developementun related to astronomy), that shows blurred images (when looking at object a few hudred yards away), but only along one axis (horizontally).

Adjusting the primary mirror does not seem to change the blur. What could that be due to ? I tried to rotate the eyepiece too, with no effect. When looking at a billboard ~50m away, letters appear to be "shadowed" horizontally.

Any idea on what could be causing this ? I am particularly puzzled by the fact that manipulating the primary adjustment screws do not seem to have any influence.

Any help greatly appreciated !

Thank you

-B.


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #21663 - 11/18/03 03:28 PM

The secondary mirror may be pinched in its cell.

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Mike Hosea]
      #21708 - 11/18/03 05:44 PM

which would bend the mirror slightly I guess.

If it was some kind of bending in the mirror, rotating its attachment to the tube would then change the direction of the deformation, right ? Well I just removed the mirror attachment from the tube, rotated it 120 degrees and put it back (and centered). The picture is still 'shadowed' horizontally, so I conclude that it is not some kind of bending of the mirror. Am I right ? What else could it be ?


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #21712 - 11/18/03 05:56 PM

well I found what the problem is:

go outside.


Staying in the lab and trying the scope by pointing it out at a shallow angle through a dirty, double pane window is _not_ a good idea...




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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #21739 - 11/18/03 07:51 PM

Giving help over the internet is a real challenge sometimes. I kid thee not, the last thing I would have thought to ask is whether you were outside.

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Mike Hosea]
      #21816 - 11/19/03 04:39 AM



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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #21949 - 11/19/03 07:53 PM

thats a keeper!

Slam

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: NuroSlam]
      #30446 - 12/18/03 12:25 PM

A few more links
http://www.efn.org/~mbartels/tm/collimat.html
http://www.oarval.org/collimatC.htm (Spanish translation)
http://www.pondi.hr/~beri/collimat.html (Croation translation)


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: Stacy]
      #47135 - 01/29/04 06:54 AM

Quote:

Here are some excellent sites for info about collimating a Newtonian Reflector.

Nils Olaf Carlin's collimation page http://w1.411.telia.com/~u41105032/kolli/kolli.html
Vic Menard's collimation page http://homepage.mac.com/vicmenard/telescopes/NPaddend.html
Collimation myths http://w1.411.telia.com/~u41105032/myths/myths.htm
Bryan Greer's Adventures in Collimation http://www.fpi-protostar.com/collim.htm
McCluney's collimation page http://home.earthlink.net/~flyj/mccluneytext.html
Thierry Legault - The collimation http://perso.club-internet.fr/legault/collim.html

Stacy




Thanks Stacy, I bought a cheshire eyepiece a week ago and those sites helped me a lot in understanding more about the collimtion techniques.

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: F.Meiresonne]
      #63243 - 02/29/04 06:05 PM

here's another one,

collimating a newtonian (skywatcher)


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: ]
      #69563 - 03/11/04 06:56 AM

Thanks everyone for all the links on collimating! I am a newbie and have tried to collimate my scope with an Orion Lasermate Deluxe. It did not work very well at all! I have a cheshire on the way.

Has anyone used an Orion Lasermate Deluxe with success? Maybe I was doing something wrong


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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: mikes1212]
      #69579 - 03/11/04 08:16 AM

There is a PDF file on this page from the website of The Backyard Astronomer's Guide that may help you too.
http://www.backyardastronomy.com/pages/newintro.html

I find that a laser really simplifies collimation.

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Re: Collimating A Newtonian Reflector new [Re: mikes1212]
      #98744 - 04/28/04 07:03 AM

Sorry if I repeat what I have written elsewhere, but I wish to thank everyone who has contributed to collimation threads on CloudyNights.

I did the big thing yesterday and took my mirror out to centremark it. In the course of collimating found the secondary was not centred.This may have been the first reason why I couldn't get best collimation.

I then collimated my LaserColli which was initially describing a circle 1" in diameter at 3 metres when rotated around its axis. This was probably the second reason I wasn't getting good collimation

I now have a laserdot that stays in the centre of the mirror when I rotate the LaserColli through 360 deg in the focuser; my estimate of centre was rubbish compared to where the centre mark turned out to be - the third reason for my previously poor collimation.The return laserdot now stays nicely in the same centrepoint on the colli too.

This subject (like mirror cleaning) seems to fill us novices with dread - thankyou to you for helping me face my fears. It's mirror cleaning next.....

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