Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums Cloudy Nights - Official Forums of the 2009 International Year of Astronomy Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu.... uh, User   You are not logged in. [Login] Entrance · Main Index · Search · New user · Who's Online FAQ · Calendar Equipment Discussions >> Binoculars Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Pages: 1 lighttrap Reged: 02/06/04 Posts: 3833 Loc: cloudy, foggy, humid NC, US Orion Little Giant orig. vs Little Giant IIs??       #177781 - 08/22/04 04:15 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   What is the difference between original Orion Little Giant 15x70s and Orion Little Giant II's 15x70s??? Thanks! -------------------- 18" Starsplitter II f/4.5 8" Hardin Dob f/6 C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3 70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro 77mm Leica Televid APO 16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt. 12x50 Nikon SE 8x30 Nikon E2s and many others Edited by lighttrap (08/22/04 05:53 PM) Post Extras:       Peter Argenziano Watcher of the Skies Reged: 11/11/03 Posts: 2813 Re: Orion Mini Giant orig. vs Mini Giant IIs?? [Re: lighttrap]       #177788 - 08/22/04 04:35 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   About 7 mm and $70 Seriously, the Mini-Giants are 15x63 (not 15x70) and have much more generous eye relief, a slightly smaller exit pupil and a slightly smaller FOV. Little-Giant II 15x70 8 mm eye relief 4.7 mm exit pupil 4° FOV Weight 2 pounds, 14 ounces $289 Mini-Giant 15x63 19 mm eye relief 4.2 mm exit pupil 3.7° FOV Weight 2 pounds, 9 ounces $219 Peter -------------------- Peter 14.5" Starmaster I hail from the explosive jetsam of a multitude of high-mass stars that died more than 5 billion years ago. Post Extras:       KennyJ Reged: 04/27/03 Posts: 10146 Loc: Lancashire UK Re: Orion Mini Giant orig. vs Mini Giant IIs?? [Re: Peter Argenziano]       #177802 - 08/22/04 04:55 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   In case Mike was referring to the difference between Orion LITTLE Giants Marks One and Two ( which I suspect he might ) the main difference is one of considerable weight loss. The Mark Two is post -Atkins diet. It is over 11 ozs lighter than the mark One ,which weighed over 3.5 pounds, with a more compact , aluminium alloy design. The bridge on the Mark Two was made more rigid , with higher focussing precision yet a slightly smoother centre-focus wheel. Regards , Kenny. -------------------- If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking - General George S.Patton Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50 Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50 Helios 15 x 70 Observation Strathspey 20 x 90 Televue 76 APO Zeiss 85 Diascope Helios 102 f5 refractor Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc. Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera Post Extras:       lighttrap Reged: 02/06/04 Posts: 3833 Loc: cloudy, foggy, humid NC, US Re: Orion Mini Giant orig. vs Mini Giant IIs?? [Re: KennyJ]       #177844 - 08/22/04 05:56 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks, Kenny. You are correct. I got the terminology wrong, but have since edited the orig. post. What I'm after is all relevant differences between an Orion Little Giant 15x70 of about 2-3 years ago, and the more modern incarnation. I think you've already told me what I want to know, but if others have comments, I welcome them. Thanks, Mike -------------------- 18" Starsplitter II f/4.5 8" Hardin Dob f/6 C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3 70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro 77mm Leica Televid APO 16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt. 12x50 Nikon SE 8x30 Nikon E2s and many others Post Extras:       Erik D Carpal Tunnel Reged: 04/28/03 Posts: 2555 Loc: Central New Jersey, USA Re: Orion Little Giant 70mm MK I & II [Re: lighttrap]       #178318 - 08/23/04 09:42 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Mike, Kenny is right. The big difference between the Orion 70mm Little Giant I & II is the 11.4 oz lighter wt. I recall the Orion LG II has been around for at least 3 years. My guess is the LG IIs are made in Japan because they carry the same 5 year warranty as my regular(not megaview) 20X80s. I have one important reservation about the LG II: Eye Relief of the 15X and 20X models are listed at 8 mm. I don't need glass with my binos but for me even 10mm is tight... Another issue with the LG II is the price. List price for the 15X70 model is $289. We all know that one can get very good quality 15X70s from Burgess/Oberwerk for ~1/2 that. Based on my experience with my Orion 20X80 and the Burgess 20X80 LW I feel the Orion have very good mechanical construction and ample right diopter adjustment. However, my Orion 80mm is no better opticaly. If fact, edge sharpness of the 80mm LW is noticeably better than the Orion 20X80. Orion has dropped the regular 20X80mm bino from there current catalog. I think there is a good possibility the LG IIs will be gone too in the near future. Erik D Post Extras:       Pages: 1 Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 5 registered and 8 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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