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skyward_eyes
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Would this be a good observing list? new
      #1870628 - 09/27/07 07:53 PM

Hey guys, I am going to the All Arizona Star Party and I am trying to make an observing list. My equipment will be an Orion 10" Dob. and a Orion short Tube 80. So heres my list, also I have pretty open horizons.

IC 1376
NGC 7822
Cederblad 214
NGC 7635
NGC 281
NGC 40
IC 1848
NGC 891
NGC 6888
NGC 246
NGC 6572
NGC 7293
NGC 6302

It is an all nighter so could you guys help me add objects or if this is a good list? Thanks guys. Clear Skies.

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4.3" William Optics Megrez 110ED
Lunt LS60Ha (On Order!)
Coronado PST (On loan)

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Couple of TeleVue eyepieces, SVP GEM, and some other stuff...




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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #1870682 - 09/27/07 08:09 PM

I've observed most of these objects with my own 10-inch Dob and my other telescopes, and the list you have is a good start. However, be warned that NGC-7635, 7822 and IC-1848 are really tough objects and may be very difficult for you to see. You will want to bring your O-III and H-beta filters if you have them. The Bubble Nebula or NGC-7635 mainly showed up as a bunch of shreds and an arc of very faint nebulosity. The other objects will be easy and spectacular sights. A couple of weeks ago I looked at NGC-281 and it does indeed look like a ravenously hungry Pac Man. Some good object for you to look for in addition to your list are Barnard's "E", which is just to the west of Gamma Aquilae and it looks like an inky black E against the Milky Way. NGC-6520 in Sagittarius is a nice open cluster with a very black dark nebula entangled with it. NGC-7293 or the Helix Nebula will show it's helices from where you'll be going. You should look at NGC-253, which will provide an incredible view from where you will be going, and while you are at it take a good look at M-33 and count the H-II regions in it. Through Tatarjj's 18-inch Dob M-33 looked like it had the measels, there were at least 5 of them visible at a glance. Don't forget NGC-7331 and Stephan's Quintet, both of which were great objects through my 10-inch when I was at the Okie-Tex Starparty back in 2006. There are many more showpieces to see than I could list here, but after you go through your list you'll find no shortage of other things to see. Have a great time in Arizona!

Taras

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skyward_eyes
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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: Achernar]
      #1870716 - 09/27/07 08:22 PM

Thanks, I was thinking of B86 and there is another "B" there but I forgot the number. They are both dark nebulas and they were amazing at the Grand Canyon star Party through my 10" dob. I am trying to milk my 10" as much as possible since I am now putting money away for a mighty Obsession 18". So for the next few years I want to get as much as I can with my 10"

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www.skywardeyes.webs.com

Scopes:
16" Truss
10" Orion XTi w/Moonlite Focuser
4.3" William Optics Megrez 110ED
Lunt LS60Ha (On Order!)
Coronado PST (On loan)

Eyepieces:
Couple of TeleVue eyepieces, SVP GEM, and some other stuff...




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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #1870751 - 09/27/07 08:35 PM

Even when you get that 18-inch, don't sell the 10-inch just yet. It's good to have a smaller second scope for the times you want to just observe for a while without having to bring out the yard cannon every time. An 18-inch is a very big telescope and you won't want to set it up for a quick 20 minute observing session. When you do get it, get ready to be blown away........ask Tatarjj about the galaxies that are 2 billion light years away he's seen with his 18-inch Obsession. I was stunned by what he can see through his scope. Aperture fever has no easy cure, LOL. As for me, I have a 10-inch and I'm very happy with it, even though I'm raring to go out and get a 14 or 15-inch Dob.....

Taras

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skyward_eyes
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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: Achernar]
      #1871205 - 09/28/07 12:19 AM

Yea a friend of mine has a discovery 17.5" and I have used an 18", 20" and 25" obsessions and a 28" home made dob. Yes they do give amazing views but yes they are a bit of a pain to set up night and night again. I will never sell my 10" it is signed to me by David Levy himself. All my scopes have personal value. So I dont think they will ever leave me.

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www.skywardeyes.webs.com

Scopes:
16" Truss
10" Orion XTi w/Moonlite Focuser
4.3" William Optics Megrez 110ED
Lunt LS60Ha (On Order!)
Coronado PST (On loan)

Eyepieces:
Couple of TeleVue eyepieces, SVP GEM, and some other stuff...




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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #1871696 - 09/28/07 09:51 AM

Here're my monthly lists of binary stars and extended DSOs for October.

Eighty-five binary and multiple stars for October: Struve 2973, Struve 2985, Struve 2992, Struve 3004, Struve 3028, Otto Struve 501, Struve 3034, Otto Struve 513, Struve 3050 (Andromeda); 29 Aquarii, 41 Aquarii, 51 Aquarii, 53 Aquarii, Zeta Aquarii, Struve 2913, Struve 2935, Tau-1 Aquarii, Struve 2944, Struve 2988, Psi-1 Aquarii, 94 Aquarii, 96 Aquarii, h3184, Omega-2 Aquarii, 107 Aquarii (Aquarius); Otto Struve 485, Struve 3037, 6 Cassiopeiae, Otto Struve 512, Sigma Cassiopeiae (Cassiopeia); Xi Cepheii, Struve 2883, Struve 2893, Struve 2903, Krueger 60, Delta Cephei, Struve 2923, Otto Struve 482, Struve 2947, Struve 2948, Struve 2950, Struve 2984, Omicron Cephei, Otto Struve 502 (Cepheus); Otto Struve 459, h1735, Struve 2876, Otto Struve 465, Struve 2886, Struve 2894, h1756, Struve 2902, Struve 2906, 8 Lacertae, Otto Struve 475, 13 Lacertae, h1828, 16 Lacertae (Lacerta); Struve 2857, Struve 2877, 34 Pegasi, Struve 2908, Xi Pegasi, Struve 2958, Struve 2978, 57 Pegasi, Struve 2991, h1859, Struve 3007, Struve 3021, Otto Struve 504, Struve 3044 (Pegasus); Struve 3009, Struve 3019, Struve 3033 (Pisces); Eta Piscis Austrini, Beta Piscis Austrini, Dunlop 241, h5356, Gamma Piscis Austrini, Delta Piscis Austrini, h5371 (Piscis Austrinus); h5417, Delta Sculptoris, h5429 (Sculptor)

Challenge binary star for October: 78 Pegasi

Seventy-five deep-sky objects for October: NGC 7640, NGC 7662, NGC 7686 (Andromeda); NGC 7180, NGC 7183, NGC 7184, NGC 7293, NGC 7392, NGC 7585, NGC 7606, NGC 7721, NGC 7723, NGC 7727 (Aquarius); Cz43, K12, M52, NGC 7635, NGC 7788, NGC 7789, NGC 7790, St12 (Cassiopeia); B171, B173-4, IC 1454, IC 1470, K10, Mrk50, NGC 7235, NGC 7261, NGC 7354, NGC 7380, NGC 7419, NGC 7510 (Cepheus); IC 1434, IC 5217, NGC 7209, NGC 7223, NGC 7243, NGC 7245 (Lacerta); NGC 7177, NGC 7217, NGC 7320 (the brightest galaxy in Stephan’s Quintet), NGC 7331, NGC 7332, NGC 7339, NGC 7448, NGC 7454, NGC 7479, NGC 7619 (the brightest member of Pegasus I), NGC 7626, NGC 7678, NGC 7742, NGC 7769 (Pegasus); NGC 7541, NGC 7562, NGC 7611 (Pisces); IC 5156, IC 5269, IC 5271, NGC 7172, NGC 7173, NGC 7174, NGC 7176, NGC 7201, NGC 7203, NGC 7214, NGC 7221, NGC 7229, NGC 7314, NGC 7361 (Piscis Austrinus); NGC 7507, NGC 7513, NGC 7713, NGC 7755, NGC 7793 (Sculptor)

Top ten binocular deep-sky objects for October: M52, NGC 7209, NGC 7235, NGC 7243, NGC 7293, NGC 7510, NGC 7686, NGC 7789, NGC 7790, St12

Top ten deep-sky objects for October: K12, M52, NGC 7209, NGC 7293, NGC 7331, NGC 7332, NGC 7339, NGC 7640, NGC 7662, NGC 7789

Challenge deep-sky object for October: Jones 1 (PK104-29.1) (Pegasus)

The objects listed above are located between 22:00 and 24:00 hours of right ascension.

Dave Mitsky

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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #1871810 - 09/28/07 10:52 AM

You can try Mark Wagner's (Lumpy Darkness) list here .

Nice list of easy to challenging stuff.

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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #1872008 - 09/28/07 12:15 PM

Won't NGC 6302 and NGC 6572 be a little too low in the southwest? IC 1376 didn't ring a bell, so I looked it up in Megastar and Simbad, and both sources tell me it's non-existant. What did you mean by it? IC 1396?

I agree with Taras, make sure to have UHC, OIII, and H-beta filters with you. If I remember correctly last time I looked at it, NGC 7822 seemed to respond somewhat equally to both UHC and H-beta, with Ced 214 slightly more of a UHC object, but it was a while ago that I did the comparison and I don't have my notes with me. My 25" will have a filter slide so I'll be able to do better comparisons.

NGC 7635 isn't too horribly bad, but it's certainly not easy. I saw it for the first time in an 8" dob under magnitude 5.5ish skies back in '96 or '97. I used a narrowband and moderate power, and eeked a faint glow surrounding around the 8th magnitude star that is blowing the bubble. My 18" shows the actual bubble structure, but it's still not "jump out of the eyepiece and grab you" obvious- the structure, that is. The nebulosity becomes easy with moderate aperture and dark skies.

You want us to add objects? What kind of objects, eyecandy or more obscure objects? If you're going after stuff like IC 1396 and IC 1848, I'd think you've seen most of the eyecandy, yet you've got 891 on the list. That one counts as eyecandy from a dark site with a big scope.

Taras, you remind me that I still haven't put up that observing report for our observing session. With two midterms and a regular test up next week... ugh.

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18" Obsession #701
4" Stellar Vue Achromat
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Edited by tatarjj (09/28/07 12:21 PM)


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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: tatarjj]
      #1872313 - 09/28/07 03:03 PM

http://seds.org/messier/xtra/similar/sac110bn.html
You will need to figure out what will be up.

There is also another longer list "AKA The List" but I can't find it right now.

Besides if you get though Dave Mitsky's suggestions you'll be good.

Bill

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12.5'' f/5 Custom Truss Dob
William Optics 80mm ZenithStar II ED Doublet
f/5 25" newtonian on a giant GEM, any time I want

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Re: Would this be a good observing list? new [Re: Bill Weir]
      #1872516 - 09/28/07 04:49 PM

Is this the one: The list?

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Re: Would this be a good observing list? [Re: jhors]
      #1872557 - 09/28/07 05:10 PM

Quote:

Is this the one: The list?




Yup, Thanks.

That one will keep you busy for more than a few nights.

Bill

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6'' Orion SkyQuest
12.5'' f/5 Custom Truss Dob
William Optics 80mm ZenithStar II ED Doublet
f/5 25" newtonian on a giant GEM, any time I want

Observing sessions grand total for 2007, 171.
So far in 2008, 111


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