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Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 07/14/06
Posts: 1636
Loc: Colorado Rocky Mt. High
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Must be a Full Moon! 
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Pentax 12x50mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 16x60mm PCF WP FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 20x60mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Orion 12x63mm Mini Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 20x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 30x80mm MEGAView FMC/JAPAN
Barska 30x80mm X-Trail LW FC
Burgess Optical Series II 20x90mm FMC/WP/FP
Handel's Messiah**Hallelujah! For the LORD God Omnipotent Reigneth
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mark22c
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Reged: 08/12/07
Posts: 343
Loc: cornwall UK
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i hope i havnt said anything out of order, i dont think i did.
am i pushing those bressers a little hard? i WAS pleased with mine 
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opticron "imagic" BGA SE 8x42 roof's
10x42 roof's
meade/bresser (lidl) 10x50 porro's
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patter1
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/19/05
Posts: 594
Loc: Canada
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whether by design or accident, the fact that these 10x50 binoculars are actually masked down to 40mm may actually have made them a better performing binocular ie. hiding edge defects in the objective lenses which would degrade their performance.
This is correct; some inexpensive achromatic scopes did/still do this. It reduces aberrations, but at the expense of dimmer deep-sky performance.
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Patrick
8" f/6 NewStar dobsonian
Orion Starblast 4.5" f/4 mini dobsonian
42mm SuperView, 17mm Nagler T4, some other cheapies
Omcon 7x50, Oberwerk 11x56, Olympus DPS-R 7x35, Olympus Magellan 8x25
homemade 50mm right-angle bino-scope prototype
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patter1
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/19/05
Posts: 594
Loc: Canada
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i hope i havnt said anything out of order, i dont think i did.
am i pushing those bressers a little hard? i WAS pleased with mine
Not at all - My favorite, and so far my optically best daytime binocular, is a cheapie that costs no more than $50 (I actually got it new off eBay for about half that), and I was worried that I was pushing it too hard, so I stopped mentioning what it is. 
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Patrick
8" f/6 NewStar dobsonian
Orion Starblast 4.5" f/4 mini dobsonian
42mm SuperView, 17mm Nagler T4, some other cheapies
Omcon 7x50, Oberwerk 11x56, Olympus DPS-R 7x35, Olympus Magellan 8x25
homemade 50mm right-angle bino-scope prototype
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mark22c
sage
Reged: 08/12/07
Posts: 343
Loc: cornwall UK
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i must admit to being a little bit peeved over the bressers 4mm ep but hey i've been doing fine with them so far, i'de just assumed as 10x50's they'de be 5mm.
but on the other hand as i enjoy using bins of that size, surely a pair with 5mm ep's (all else being equal)are going to be brighter, meaning if i want to upgrade to a brighter set they needent necessarily be bigger than 10x50?
mind you im going to have a look and see if any thing can be done about it, but i've got a feeling its not just the baffle and probably has somthing to do with prism size and there appitures as well
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opticron "imagic" BGA SE 8x42 roof's
10x42 roof's
meade/bresser (lidl) 10x50 porro's
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mark22c
sage
Reged: 08/12/07
Posts: 343
Loc: cornwall UK
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i cant believe these things! just found them on ebay for... and i'm not jokeing "£49.99 buy it now" i only looked at them as i saw identical ones earlier today at a car boot sale, the guy wanted a pound for them, they 're made entirely out of plastic, had ruby coated lenses held in place with clear silicon and looked to me like kids toys!
well theres one end of the spectrum for under a ton.
should have bought em really 
must be a contender for worlds worst bins
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opticron "imagic" BGA SE 8x42 roof's
10x42 roof's
meade/bresser (lidl) 10x50 porro's
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KennyJ
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10082
Loc: Lancashire UK
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< they 're made entirely out of plastic, had ruby coated lenses held in place with clear silicon and looked to me like kids toys!>
The few times I went to the Canary Islands , i.e Tenerife , Gran Canaria and Fuerteventura , I saw shops in almost every resort selling binoculars just like that -- and on average , the asking price was six times the price of the Bresser 10 ( 9.7 ) x 50 ( 40 )!
Kenny
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Two eyes and a preference to use both
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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