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ALERT - Comet 17/P Holmes in mega outburst
      #1933504 - 10/24/07 12:15 PM

I've just received this notification

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Dear comet observers,



We have added the following new chart to our homepage http://www.shopplaza.nl/astro :



* 17P/Holmes :

a 10x15 degrees chart for the period 24 October - 13 December 2007
This comet is undergoing a tremendous outburst, as it did during its discovery apparition in 1892, and is now a naked eye object in Perseus, well placed for northern hemisphere observers. Updated charts will be issued for this very important event depending on the brightness evolution of 17P over the coming days/weeks.

Reinder Bouma/Edwin van Dijk.





The BAA have also sent me a similar e-mail

In the last 24 hours the comet has jumped from mag 17 to mag 3. Thats around 1 million times brighter

For me this is a bad time as no clear skies until Sunday night possibly

Happy hunting guys - this is very exciting for comet watchers

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tonk]
      #1933541 - 10/24/07 12:36 PM

Tonk and everyone,

I am having a hard time clearly reading the finder charts I have. What constellation is the comet in now and what time of the evening/night/morning is it visible?

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Glassthrower]
      #1933557 - 10/24/07 12:46 PM

Mike,

It's in Eastern Perseus. If you slew eastward from Alpha Perseii with binoculars, you'll come across it.

The latest observation from Japan's Seiichi Yoshida, one of the planet's top comet gurus, puts it around mag 3.0 with the naked-eye. It's very, very small; almost star-like.

Outbursts like this tend to be short-lived, so try to see it tonight if possible. The recent satellite image trends for cloud cover in northern Ohio look pretty bad

Clear Skies,
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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Phillip Creed]
      #1933591 - 10/24/07 01:01 PM

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and is now a naked eye object in Perseus, well placed for northern hemisphere observers.




I.e for my latitude its overhead at local midnight - so read that as visible all night. We are really lucky to have this event so easy to see

The chart clearly indicates Mirfak (alpha Perseus) so that is a good handle to work from

More info here http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/0017P/2007.html

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tonk]
      #1933672 - 10/24/07 01:35 PM

Exciting! Clear skies are forcasted here, I'll be out!

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: gimmeabeer]
      #1933773 - 10/24/07 02:27 PM

LONEOS two nights ago, hope for this one tonight, life is good.

I'm doing a school function tonight, now hopefully I can show the kids two comets.

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tonk]
      #1933826 - 10/24/07 02:50 PM

Thanks for a great tip

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Phillip Creed]
      #1933829 - 10/24/07 02:52 PM

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Outbursts like this tend to be short-lived, so try to see it tonight if possible.





Actually, it might not be that urgent, Phil. On a recent IAU Circular, it reads, "...Comet 17P also underwent a large outburst in brightness when it was first discovered in Nov. 1892 near total visual mag 4 (which was also about 12 mag over the "normal" brightness); at that time, it faded by about 3 mag over the following week (e.g., Kronk 2003,Cometography 2, 694)."


So if that pattern holds this time, it might be available for naked-eye viewing for nearly a week.

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tom Polakis]
      #1933964 - 10/24/07 03:50 PM

Talk about outburst! For once the skies are cooperating here in rainy swedish autumn. The comet is as bright as delta Persei. Looks like Perseus got a new member all of a sudden. A faint golden tint to it.

Really nice!

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: jocce]
      #1934042 - 10/24/07 04:40 PM

Looks like it's brighter than mag 3 - somewhere in between the brightness of alpha and delta persei. Took this shot with a Maxxum 7D a few minutes ago. The comet's at the bottom with Alpha at the top and Delta towards the middle right.



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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Trevor Durity]
      #1934152 - 10/24/07 05:18 PM

Arrghhhh and me with rain and clouds for the next few days! Dang

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #1934215 - 10/24/07 05:36 PM

Now reported to have reached mag 2.8 by Yoshida

http://cometography.com/pcomets/017p.html

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tonk]
      #1934228 - 10/24/07 05:40 PM

The comet is visible to the naked eye as a stellar point in Perseus. It looks exactly like a nova.

My brightness estimate is magnitude 2.8-2.7 (slightly brighter than Delta Per).


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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tonk]
      #1934230 - 10/24/07 05:41 PM

Greetings from Ireland again...here is my latest shot, and in my 8" SCT, it's very yellow at about magnitude 2.5
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/1732909835_9d7c4772a4_o.jpg

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: ph2]
      #1934239 - 10/24/07 05:43 PM

Thanks to Trev for sharing his photo with us.

OK, I know very little about comets . But I thought it has to be closed to the Sun (i.e. near earth) to get really bright. But reports here and elsewhere showed it is stellar which seems to imply it's still very far away.

So the question is: how can a far away comet gets so bright? Impacted by some unknown space objects?

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Ron B[ee]]
      #1934263 - 10/24/07 05:53 PM

Another link :The Sky and Telescope article.

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tom Dugan]
      #1934299 - 10/24/07 06:08 PM

The comet don't have any tail ??? hope not it come in ower direction ;-)

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tom Dugan]
      #1934321 - 10/24/07 06:18 PM

I just had a email from Space Weather and reported 2.5 Mag. My skies are not looking good untill this weekend, maybe it will hold and a tail will form by then!

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Hambone]
      #1934331 - 10/24/07 06:21 PM

In Denmark we have just see it, a mag, about 2,5 yes!

Links pic. http://www.lyra.dk/forum.asp?mode=4&parentid=12983

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Tom Dugan]
      #1934346 - 10/24/07 06:26 PM

Is there a tail viewable with this comet?

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Denmark]
      #1934390 - 10/24/07 06:40 PM

I had a hard time finding it -- I was also expecting something with a tail. Through 18x70's it looks more like a small planetary nebula than a comet. ("You mean the fuzzy thing?" asks my wife.)

Once you know where it is it's an easy naked eye object, even through high clouds with a full moon (see Keith's shot above, which is pretty similar to my sky right now).

I wonder if it's worth trundling out to the 16" in the observatory?

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #1934399 - 10/24/07 06:44 PM

No tail! Last shot, unless it brightens further !

Keith..

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: Jeff Young]
      #1934434 - 10/24/07 06:54 PM

Go for it,and tell us what you see with your 16"

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #1934440 - 10/24/07 06:55 PM

The last picture. Taken with SPC900 webcam and SC8 at F10



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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: plutarko]
      #1934443 - 10/24/07 06:56 PM

Sweet closeup!

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: plutarko]
      #1934449 - 10/24/07 06:59 PM

Great Caesar's Ghost I'll have to put the big Erfle on the 6" Jaegers to it tonight!! Mike

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: mikey cee]
      #1934495 - 10/24/07 07:14 PM

With a 10” refractor at 100x and 235x the comet is a round circular shaped object. The color is yellow.

It is fainter towards the edge and have a smaller and brighter innermost region. At the very edge of this brighter central area (fan shaped??) is a stellar knot or point.


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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: ph2]
      #1934530 - 10/24/07 07:30 PM

I hope to get to see it on Friday - the only moment this week we're expected to have another astronomy window of opportunity. It was of course clear till this morning

Cheers!

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #1934562 - 10/24/07 07:40 PM

With this comet heading away from the sun I could not imagine it would produce a tail.
Then again who knows.
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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: rodney]
      #1934627 - 10/24/07 08:00 PM

According to the Sky and Telescope article, Comet expert Gary Kronk, "expects it to grow to several arcminutes across," in the next few days. Does this mean a tail? I don't know but maybe the gas and dust will get strung out into a tail given more time. Sounds like this could last a while and be quite interesting.

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Re: ALERT - Comet Holmes in mega outburst new [Re: melonman]
      #1934633 - 10/24/07 08:04 PM

Melonman I hope so dude!

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