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SnaggS
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How do I get started? new
      #1984980 - 11/14/07 03:14 PM

I have a Sky 90 and p2Z on order. For photo gear I have a FM3a and Tachihara 4x5 view camera.

* How big is the light cone on my Sky 90? Can I do medium format with it (I've got rolls of E100G in the fridge).
* I know that Tak make all sorts of accesories for imaging. Field flatener, something else to rotate the camera, flip mirrors etc. I just don't know what I need.

First thing I've already ordered is a piggy back mount for the tripod so I can start doing some widefield.

Daniel.


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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: SnaggS]
      #1986058 - 11/14/07 10:23 PM

First of all read Suk's wide field article! also I have some notes over on my blog http://israeliskies.blogspot.com/

Right now the biggest question I have re Large format is which film to use. At some point I will buy boxes of the most probable brands and head to the negev to test them.

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Yesha Israel
Meade ETX 127 Mak-Cass
15x70 Celestron Skymaster Binoculars
Sinar F 4x5 view camera
Rolliflex Camera 80mm F2.8
Pentax K-1000 Camera 35,50 and 60--300mm zoom
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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: ZachK]
      #1986108 - 11/14/07 10:38 PM

Oh if you want a 4x5 ronchi grateing that you can put over your ground glass for focusing I have one. I haven't actually tried it yet.

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Zach Kessin
Yesha Israel
Meade ETX 127 Mak-Cass
15x70 Celestron Skymaster Binoculars
Sinar F 4x5 view camera
Rolliflex Camera 80mm F2.8
Pentax K-1000 Camera 35,50 and 60--300mm zoom
3 kids, Large cat, small dog


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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: ZachK]
      #1986351 - 11/15/07 01:23 AM

Just a question, wouldn't the stars just be at infinity focus? Wouldn't you just focus at something in the far distance while its light and use that?

Daniel.

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Edmunds 4mm Ortho, 8mm RKE, 12mm RKE
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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: SnaggS]
      #1986420 - 11/15/07 02:52 AM

Yes the stars by definition are at infinity, but getting perfect focus can be a trick. And the ground glass can be kind of dim and hard to focus on. A larger lens helps (i have a 300mm F4.5 on order). The Ronchi grating (or a hartman mask/knife edge etc) uses an optical trick to get a perfect focus.

You can also just go out and take a loupe and play with the focus until you get a star as small as possible.

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Zach Kessin
Yesha Israel
Meade ETX 127 Mak-Cass
15x70 Celestron Skymaster Binoculars
Sinar F 4x5 view camera
Rolliflex Camera 80mm F2.8
Pentax K-1000 Camera 35,50 and 60--300mm zoom
3 kids, Large cat, small dog


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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: ZachK]
      #1986664 - 11/15/07 07:40 AM

I see in the Sky 90 system charts that it shows the Mamiya M645 as a option. I take it then that this won't vignette on the Sky 90?

Daniel.

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Edmunds 4mm Ortho, 8mm RKE, 12mm RKE
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Re: How do I get started? new [Re: SnaggS]
      #1986792 - 11/15/07 09:19 AM

One thing about focus - precise focusing on an object with your own eyes, especially in daylight, is extremely difficult. Your eyes will refocus an out-of-focus image making you think you have found the perfect focus spot, when in reality you are not. On a daylight image, you can get away with a very tiny amount of mis-focus and not see much of a difference. Stars however, are not as forgiving. You can spot an out-of-focus star very easy, and if you enlarge the photo, you will notice the loss of details in extended objects too.

CF

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Re: How do I get started? [Re: ClownFish]
      #1987976 - 11/15/07 07:56 PM

Here is a question. If I mount my Mamiya 645 on the back of the scope. Do I still need a Ronchi grating to focus? Where do I get one and where do I put it

Daniel.

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Edmunds 4mm Ortho, 8mm RKE, 12mm RKE
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