OvidiuDanut
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Hi! I opened upt this thread not because i ignorantly believe that its a 100% great deal, but for the fact that the price is really attractive and i want to know if anyone here tested this model, or if anyone here bought it at the current price and what does he think about it?
Could it be at the same quality build of the other "great buy" the 20x80 Zhumell?
http://www.telescopes.com/binoculars/astronomy-binoculars/tachyon25x100astronomicalbinocularwlockingaluminumcase.cfm#navbar=a
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Edited by OvidiuDanut (11/16/07 04:19 AM)
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OvidiuDanut
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Nobody:(......
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johndavid24
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I'm about to order these, I couldn't get a good apogee 20x100 bino so i'm going to try these,
So nobody else has them? I'd also like to know if they're OK, Thanks John
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cota_scope
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here is a link of reviews from amateur astronomers
http://www.astronomy.com/ASY/CS/forums/274706/ShowPost.aspx
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johndavid24
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Thanks for the link, sound good enough for me. 25 year no fault warranty
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Markus
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There's been SEVERAL threads relating to these binocs in which EdZ has pointed out that SEVERAL people have been returning these binocs due to very POOR alignment. I'd stay away from these binos if I were you.
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johndavid24
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From what i've read the Zhumell are good bino's, time for more reading!
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MtnGoat
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Seems to me if you don't mind aligning them, they're a heck of a bargain. Some of us have a choice between something that takes some fiddling, and nothing...as opposed to something that takes some fiddling, and $$.
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cota_scope
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looks like a good buy but i would make sure your getting the one in the picture and call them.they do have larger and better shock resistance collimating screw's. i have had about 3 pair orion which were out of alignment burgess slightly out (oberwerk has good return policy and were in collimation) and nova from canada and they are all similar in design. the metal case should help in shipping from getting banged around, but make sure they pack them good. john
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Mr. Bill
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Ya sometimes get what you pay for, you never get more....
caveat emptor.... 
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Harry Jacobson
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Ya sometimes get what you pay for, you never get more....
Mr. Bill -
I remember an NZ wine I liked - Huia Vineyards - $6/bottle. I bought a couple of cases. After someone's write-up - John Palmer? - the price rose to $16/bottle!
Buy low, drink high! 
Harry
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Mr. Bill
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Ya sometimes get what you pay for, you never get more....
Mr. Bill -
I remember an NZ wine I liked - Huia Vineyards - $6/bottle. I bought a couple of cases. After someone's write-up - John Palmer? - the price rose to $16/bottle!
Buy low, drink high!
Harry
Good luck.. 
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10x50 Fujinon FMT-SX binos
15x70 AP binos + Paragon p-mount
Oberwerk 100BT 45 degree + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/6.5 Antares achromat
150mm f/8 homemade achromat....EE Barnard MW Sweeper
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery split tube
35mm Pan, 26mm Nagler, 17mm Nagler, 13mm Ethos, 8mm Ethos
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Harry Jacobson
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Mr. Bill,
Soberly I  . Your bino experience is vastly greater than mine.
Harry
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starramus
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I see they have upgraded to individual focusers, but this level of binocular is sure to be fraught with problems. Be very wary and check them out thoroughly, and don't be surprised if you have to return them. If buying Chinese I think it safest to stick with the Ultra and Signature lines. Try them out and then buy something better.
Regards and clear skies,
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OvidiuDanut
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Yeah they are about the same as those from Garrets and Oberwerks, but there could be quality issues....especially dangerous for me because they will wind up across the Ocean here in Romania, and the chances of returining them if broken or something are nul because of the shipping costs...
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edcannon
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Yeah they are about the same as those from Garrets and Oberwerks...
As a long-time reader here, I believe that Garrett and Oberwerk regular (i.e., not Signature or Ultra) binoculars are a step up from the Zhumell and other lowest-priced brands/models. Garretts and Oberwerks are at least fully multicoated, while Zhumell, Celestron Skymaster, Barska, etc., are not. That one thing is worth at least a few more dollars. Beyond that, if you deal directly with Garrett or Oberwerk, you are dealing with vendors with good reputations for customer service and quality control. That also by itself is worth a few dollars more.
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hallelujah
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Ed Cannon,
The Zhumell Tachyon 25x100mm is FMC.
http://www.zhumell.com/specialty/zhumell-binoculars-astronomical.html
The 20x80mm Super Giant does not give the optical coatings.
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EdZ
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The Zhumell Tachyon 25x100mm is FMC.
The 20x80mm Super Giant does not give the optical coatings.
The Zhumell Tachyon 25x100mm specs state
high-performance features include: Fully multi-coated lenses
that does not state all surfaces are entirely FMC. I don't know if it is entirely FMC or not.
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Glassthrower
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I paid $199 for my 25x100 Celestron Skymaster a couple of years back at an online sale Adorama was having. The Skymaster is not the best example of a giant binocular, but at $200 it represented great "bang for the buck". I got a lot of enjoyment out of that binocular. Just because the Zhumell may not measure up to the likes of Oberwerk does not mean it's a bad value. But I do agree with what was said above, if you have the means, then get a "better" binocular. If your finances are limited then get the Zhumell.
Eventually I sold the Skymaster for $150. So I basically rented them for two years for $50 or $25 per year. Not bad.
Regards and clear skies,
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starramus
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Yeah they are about the same as those from Garrets and Oberwerks, but there could be quality issues....especially dangerous for me because they will wind up across the Ocean here in Romania, and the chances of returining them if broken or something are nul because of the shipping costs...
At least these are on your side of the Atlantic. They are pricey but a step up in quality.
http://www.apm-telescopes.com/lagerliste.php?catchoice1=&catchoice2=57&choice=57#190
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