Richard Hendrix
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Hi,
I purchased the Zhumell 20x80's last week and seem to have gotten a good pair. My question is I want to purchase the Orion Paragon-Plus Binocular Mount and need to know if they are usable as is. Do I need any other adapters to attach the binos to the mount?
thanks,
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Richard Hendrix
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AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
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hallelujah
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According to the picture, and the ad, the Paragon Plus uses an L adapter to connect binoculars to the mount.
The Zhumell 20x80mm comes with a braced-in tripod-mounting post. Depending upon where the balance point is for the 80mm binocular, you might have to install a 1" center post extension to allow the tubes proper clearance on the mount.
http://www.garrettoptical.com/Binocular-Center-Post-Extension-p/gbinx.htm
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Richard Hendrix
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Hi hallelujah,
I just found the bino mounts pdf instruction page from orion it mentions using an adapter #7589 for binos with a central support shaft, like their MegaViews. Would that be like the link you provided or would that be in addition to the adapter that recommend as well?
thanks for your response and Happy New Year,
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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hallelujah
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The one I recommended is an "additional" accessory, needed ONLY if the clearance between the 80mm and the tripod head is insufficient.
I would start out with whatever Orion recommends and see for yourself if it fits your needs.
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Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
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Randy Cordell
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Richard,
Hi. Interesting. I have the Paragon and have been curious about the Zhumell 20x80's. I have heard everything from don't touch them with a ten foot pole to they are pretty decent.
The Paragon will not accept a direct mounting of any kind of bino's. You need the adapter they show on the Orion Website, #07589 for any Bino with the built in mount like your Zhumells have. For my setup, on top of this I mounted the original head that came with my tripod, with an "L" adapter on top of that with my POS 10x50's on that. This was to achieve the other axis of movement that the Paragon is missing. This allows some side-to-side adjustment without having to move your feet.
Hope to hear more about those Zhumell's.
Clear Skies
Randy
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Randy Cordell
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Bogen 3040 and 3050 Tripods with Orion Paragon-Plus Parallelogram or 3047 head
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Cookey
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I just bought the same binoculars. When you get all settled and figure out what you need to buy, can you pass that info along here? I otherwise would have no idea what to get.
Thanks!
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So incredibly new to this, I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Richard Hendrix
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Cookey said,
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I just bought the same binoculars. When you get all settled and figure out what you need to buy, can you pass that info along here? I otherwise would have no idea what to get.
Randy said,
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Hi. Interesting. I have the Paragon and have been curious about the Zhumell 20x80's. I have heard everything from don't touch them with a ten foot pole to they are pretty decent.
The Paragon will not accept a direct mounting of any kind of bino's. You need the adapter they show on the Orion Website, #07589 for any Bino with the built in mount like your Zhumells have. For my setup, on top of this I mounted the original head that came with my tripod, with an "L" adapter on top of that with my POS 10x50's on that. This was to achieve the other axis of movement that the Paragon is missing. This allows some side-to-side adjustment without having to move your feet.
Hope to hear more about those Zhumell's.
Thanks Randy. I ordered the pgram and the aforementioned adapter, they will be here next Tuesday. I will put it together and report back here. Can you post an image of this setup?
Cookey, I hope to have clear skies soon, next week looks like. I'll post my first light and what worked and didn't work on the Orion pgram with the Z 20x80's.
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Randy Cordell
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Richard,
Sure. These should do it.....ooh ouch....100K hmmm
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Randy Cordell
Meade StarFinder 10" F/4.7 Dob, Telrad, Craford, Fans
Bogen 3040 and 3050 Tripods with Orion Paragon-Plus Parallelogram or 3047 head
Oberwerk Mariner 7x50
Pentax PCF WP 8x40
Garrett Optical Gemini 15x70 WP-IF
Laptop running Kubuntu and Stellarium 0.9.1
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Randy Cordell
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2nd one....
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Randy Cordell
Meade StarFinder 10" F/4.7 Dob, Telrad, Craford, Fans
Bogen 3040 and 3050 Tripods with Orion Paragon-Plus Parallelogram or 3047 head
Oberwerk Mariner 7x50
Pentax PCF WP 8x40
Garrett Optical Gemini 15x70 WP-IF
Laptop running Kubuntu and Stellarium 0.9.1
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Randy Cordell
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3rd and final just for another perspective
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Randy Cordell
Meade StarFinder 10" F/4.7 Dob, Telrad, Craford, Fans
Bogen 3040 and 3050 Tripods with Orion Paragon-Plus Parallelogram or 3047 head
Oberwerk Mariner 7x50
Pentax PCF WP 8x40
Garrett Optical Gemini 15x70 WP-IF
Laptop running Kubuntu and Stellarium 0.9.1
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Richard Hendrix
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Loc: Jacksonville, Florida
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Hi Randy,
Thanks for the images. Nice setup. I imagine that the handle comes in handy for quick elevation moves. That may be something I add later to mine for watching the shuttle from up here in Jax. Even if I only used my 10x50s.
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Richard Hendrix
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I just bought the same binoculars. When you get all settled and figure out what you need to buy, can you pass that info along here? I otherwise would have no idea what to get.
Cookey,
I rec'd the p-gram mount today, nice finish and sturdy. I'll post my first light tomorrow but wanted you to know that with my Z20x80s I did need to use the binocular mount adapter #07589 from Orion. It comes with the 'L' adapter for a front mount type bino so I can use the Z20x80s and my 10x50s. Nice!
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Gazer501
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Quote:
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I just bought the same binoculars. When you get all settled and figure out what you need to buy, can you pass that info along here? I otherwise would have no idea what to get.
Cookey,
I rec'd the p-gram mount today, nice finish and sturdy. I'll post my first light tomorrow but wanted you to know that with my Z20x80s I did need to use the binocular mount adapter #07589 from Orion. It comes with the 'L' adapter for a front mount type bino so I can use the Z20x80s and my 10x50s. Nice!
I too bought a pair of Z20X80's in December for $69 bucks. Can you please post a picture of your z's mounnted?
So far I'm very happy with these binocs for the price.
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Richard Hendrix
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I too bought a pair of Z20X80's in December for $69 bucks. Can you please post a picture of your z's mounnted?
So far I'm very happy with these binocs for the price.
Hi Gazer501,
Sure, this image is not to good but I'll post it now and then take another tomorrow sometime. The tripod is not an Orion tripod.
I really enjoy this setup. I had it out in the driveway with my 4" refractor tonight checking out M42, M45 and the Hyades. Several neighbors stopped by for peeks and oo'd and ahh'd both the scope and bino views.
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Richard Hendrix
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Here are a few images:
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Richard Hendrix
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
"Every star may be a sun to someone."
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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Gazer501
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Loc: Buckeye, AZ
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Nice outfit! Thanks for sharing! What have you viewed in the Z20X80's so far? Been cloudy over here the last few nights. 
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Bushnell 114mm x 900mm
Meade 130MM x 1020MM W/Goto Mount Autostar #494
Zhumell 20 x 80 Binoculars
Binoculars.com Basic Porro 7 x 35 Binoculars
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Tom Andrews
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Very nice looking setup!
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Tom
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Focus on what you have, not on what you don't;
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