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cvedeler
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Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new
      #2090166 - 01/02/08 02:55 PM

I've been looking at filters to help image under my light polluted skies.

Reading this: http://www.samirkharusi.net/filters.html Samir recommends the Astronomik UHC filter for heavy light pollution. Of course that is a $200 filter which is hard for me to justify. The Orion SkyGlow is on sale for $58. Any ideas on how this would compare? Would I just be wasting my money or would it make a significant improvement under 4th magnitude skies?

Thanks!

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Chris Vedeler

Astro-Physics 160EDF
Astro-Physics 900GTO
Q453HR / QHY8 CCD camera
Canon 450XSi
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ChazK
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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new [Re: cvedeler]
      #2090186 - 01/02/08 03:00 PM

You get what you pay for. I'd look at the Lumicon Deep Sky as well.

http://www.lumicon.com/telescope-accessories.php?iid=LF3015&cid=13&in=Filter+Deep+Sky+2in&hn=

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NeoDinian
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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new [Re: ChazK]
      #2090276 - 01/02/08 03:35 PM

I for one am looking at the IDAS-LPS filter... I've seen some amazing results with some images taken here and an UN-Modded cam. After seeing those results, I think I'm WELL justified.

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D. Perry
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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new [Re: cvedeler]
      #2090295 - 01/02/08 03:43 PM

Hi Chris,

I wouldn't expect a huge improvement but it'll certainly help. The Orion SG filter is quite broad. It's meant to improve visual contrast in moderately light-polluted areas. It doesn't block at the IR wavelengths but that should be fine since your camera does block IR.

I'd go instead with an IDAS LPS filter or something similar... but that's just me.

Best,
Danny

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Ontario, California [ 34N | 117W ]

• Astro-Physics 900GTO & ATS Portable Pier
• Meade 12" LX200-ACF OTA
• Celestron 9.25" SCT
• Takahashi FSQ-106ED
• Stellarvue SV80S (Lomo super APO triplet)
• SBIG ST-10XME
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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new [Re: D. Perry]
      #2090944 - 01/02/08 07:29 PM

With large amount of LP, broadband filters tend to become saturated...

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ericjacob613
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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? new [Re: novbabies]
      #2091365 - 01/02/08 10:15 PM

I have some comparison shots made with and without the Skyglow under light-polluted skies:

http://cheapskate-astro.net/technical.html

Almost every nebula shot on the site used that same filter.

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Re: Orion SkyGlow? How does it compare? [Re: ericjacob613]
      #2091498 - 01/02/08 10:58 PM

I have the Orion Ultra Block, Orion Broadband, and the IDAS LPS light pollution filters. The Ultra Block is essentially an H-beta O-III filter; interesting effects on some nebulae, but not useful as a general purpose light pollution filter. When I firt started using the Orion broad band filter I loved it because it was a huge improvement over using no filter at all, but I soon becam frustrated as color fidelity was hit and miss as the filter essentially pulls down all of the green and yellow. I recently bought the IDAS LPS and I've only had a chance to use it a couple of times, but my first impression is it's wonderful. It does a great job pulling down my sky glow (my maximum useful exposure with the filter is 240-300 seconds versus 30 seconds without it) and the color looks very good.

Sooo, as a basic light pollution filter the Orion broad band sky glow filter is a good value, but you may have color problems with it. The IDAS LPS is more expensive (I paid $139 for the 1.25" version from OPT), but does a much better job preserving as much color as you can and still pull out the light pollution from mercury and sodium lamps.

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-John
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Meade LXD75-N6/SN6/SC8, DSX-90, ETX-60BB, ETX-125PE, DS-2130
Orion StarBlast, BinoViewers, Coronado PST
Rebel XT/XTi, DSI Pro (I, II, & III), DSI, LPI, Electronic Eyepiece, Phillips SPC900NC
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