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AstroBobo
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Films for astrophotography
      #2140072 - 01/23/08 11:23 AM

I think we should make a sticky thread (or whatever it is called) about films for astrophotography as this is definitely the most common question here. I recently discovered Robert Reeves' website and his test of various b&w, negative and diapositive films, so here are the links to anyone interested:

B&W films
Color negative films
Slide films

Also, it would be nice if some of you could reply here and write your experiences with various films.

Personally I found Kodak E200 to have the best red response (I have also push-developed it with success) and Provia 400F for everything else.


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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #2140560 - 01/23/08 03:58 PM

Your link for color negative films lists Fuji Superia X-tra 800 speed as the best color negative film. I have tryed several different color negative films and would have to agree, it has the both the best red response and the lowest reciprocity failure. It isn't as good as some of the slide films (like E200), but it's worlds better than stuff like T-max.

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Mopman
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: microbes]
      #2141690 - 01/24/08 01:23 AM

Here is another film link ... Thanks, Mopman http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/FILM/FILMS.HTM

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Suk Lee
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Mopman]
      #2141777 - 01/24/08 03:36 AM

Now sticky!

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AstroBobo
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Suk Lee]
      #2142126 - 01/24/08 10:11 AM

Thanks Suk!

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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #2143521 - 01/24/08 08:54 PM Attachment (408 downloads)

Fuji Super HQ 400 negative film and Fujichrome HQ 400 slide film has decent red response. They are also easier to find than the good stuff.

Here are some examples of HQ 400.

This is a Prime Focus, 30 minute unprocessed shot of The North American Nebula using a 8" SVP with a Olympus OM-1 and 200mm lens at F 4.5


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Hambone
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Hambone]
      #2143534 - 01/24/08 08:59 PM Attachment (414 downloads)

Here is another shot the same as above but using Fujichrome Super HQ 400 slide film, 20 minutes,(I think) and a 135mm lens.

Edited by Hambone (01/24/08 09:04 PM)


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stargazerken
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Hambone]
      #2837014 - 01/01/09 04:49 PM

Anyone try Kodak Ultra Max? I picked up a roll of 400 speed, but clouds have stop any try at taking a shot. Thanks.

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chgomonitor
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: stargazerken]
      #3182127 - 06/25/09 01:06 PM

-Tried the Kodak Ultra Max at 800 speed. Bad grain and seemed to really fog up on me rather badly after about 30 seconds. Also had a definite green color cast. Switched to Fuji.

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Matthew Ota
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: chgomonitor]
      #3236466 - 07/24/09 05:41 PM

When I did film astrophotography I got great results using Kodak 400LE. It is their "Law Enforcement" film and it has great red response. I guess originally it was great for showing blood....

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Matthew Ota
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Matthew Ota]
      #3248829 - 07/31/09 01:34 PM

I found this print film on the web and I wonder if anybody here has tried it:

Photo Evidence Film


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M111
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Matthew Ota]
      #3248871 - 07/31/09 01:55 PM

Haven't tried it, but if it's good for blood maybe it's good for red emission nebulae too...

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huckabuck
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: M111]
      #3248930 - 07/31/09 02:26 PM

if the shipping wasn't so ridiculas i'd give it a try

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PaulEK
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #3262259 - 08/08/09 11:50 PM Attachment (295 downloads)

Here's a crop (about 60-70% of the frame) from the center of a shot I took a couple of years ago, using Fuji Provia 400f slide film. If my memory is correct, I took it using my Nikon F, with a 50mm f/1.4 lens set at f/2.8. I didn't take careful note to time the shot precisely because I took several of varying length, and this one turned out the best. but I think it was about 10 minutes.

What I like about this film is that, though it doesn't record the reds as well as other films I've seen used, it is very sharp, with little grain, and it seems to have a low reciprocity failure rate. I've not done -- and wouldn't know how to do -- scientific comparisons, but I've taken astrophotos with my Mamiya RB67 (which I have not yet scanned to my satisfaction) that have lots and lots of very tiny stars on them!

I have noticed that the film seems to show more purple than I think it should.

Edited by PaulEK (08/09/09 12:03 AM)


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PaulEK
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #3262273 - 08/09/09 12:00 AM Attachment (219 downloads)

Here's a much closer to 100% crop. And the more I think about it, the longer I think the exposure was. 15 minutes?

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Saturnalia
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: PaulEK]
      #3546241 - 01/07/10 06:20 PM

AstroBobo - the three links in your original first message here are not working.

Any chance of fixing them...?


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tommyhawk13
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Saturnalia]
      #3561196 - 01/14/10 07:49 PM

Saturnalia, a lot has changed since the info on the links was posted.
Fuji Provia 400F has been discontinued, and replaced by Provia 400X. It's an ok film, but it has poorer red response. Not bad, but not as good as the old stuff.

Kodak E-200, Elite 200, or Ektachrome 200 is king right now. It picks up red (Hydrogen Alpha) like nobody's business. Even though it's rated at 200, it picks up photons faster than the 400 after only a few minutes. It suffers from reciprocity failure like any film, but not nearly as bad. Some say that it is as fast as the old hypered films.

Both the Fuji and Kodak films are slide films.

Hope this helps.


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stargazerken
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: tommyhawk13]
      #4302186 - 01/09/11 10:42 AM

Any leads on a good color print film for astrophotos? I do mainly CCD now, but would like to do wide field again. I have the equipment for slides, but just need to buy new chemicals for processing

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Nightfly
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: stargazerken]
      #4302782 - 01/09/11 03:22 PM

Kodak Gold 200 does a good job:

Kodak Gold 200 Test- Milky Way by Nightfly Photography, on Flickr


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stargazerken
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Re: Films for astrophotography new [Re: Nightfly]
      #4303558 - 01/09/11 09:50 PM

Thanks Nightfly; excellent photo! I will have to pick up a roll or two and get some pics done next dark period.

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