jblaschke
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Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
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Bob, the toy Marvin the Martian was sold in stores 7-8 years ago. It takes watch batteries and there are three buttons on the back of his head which, when pressed, cause him to say various lines from his Loony Tunes cartoons. He also came with an oversized gold zap gun. They're not sold new anymore, but you'll likely find one (or another Marvin toy) on Ebay.
Can't answer your paint questions. Sorry. 
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Jayme Lynn Blaschke
6" Meade 645: f/5 wide-field Classic
Canon 400D unmodified
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Happy-Idiot
Carpal Tunnel
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Posts: 2780
Loc: 3rd Rock
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Barry,
Do you have a paint code for matching Brandon Sky Blue color?
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Brian
A small scope that gets used often is a better investment than a big scope that stays in the closet.
Unitrons, you spend more time looking at them than you do through them.
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BarrySimon615
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Loc: New Orleans, LA
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Sorry for the late response. I have not been able to match the Brandon Blue. The closest I can come is by using Rust-Oleum "Harbor Blue" #7722. This paint is still available and I first used it about 15 years ago.
Barry Simon
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Doug76
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Loc: SE Louisiana, future Texan
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Gonna start this one up again. I am currently in possession of the parts for a Towa 60/700 and a Carton 60/1000. I have already painted the Towa tube (Krylon Gloss White). I had it turning for 24 hours. I build fishing rods, and you have to spin the rod slowly while the epoxy on the guide threads cures. The motor I use is from Cabela's, and spins at about 4rpm. It has a lot of torque, so it had no trouble turning that little tube. With a slight alteration, the mandrel (homemade) was able to hold the tube from the inside firmly, and on the other end I built a spinning disc with inset screws with felt on their heads that could be backed out to contact the tube inside and grip it firmly enough to prevent slipping. So the tube was held on both ends, spinning at 4rpm for 24 straight hours, and the finish was perfect. Since I have been on the road since then, I expect the tube's paint will be cured completely when I return home. Can't wait to get it together, and do the same with the Carton.
Doug
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drexelpbp
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Loc: Phoenixville,PA
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Interesting. Did you paint it while it was spinning?
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Orion 8" intelliscope
Celestron CF 8' SCT
Celestron 8SE
Celestron C80ED
Orion ST120
Orion ST80
Orion 120 f/8.3
Orion Skyview Pro Deluxe 90 f/11
Celesrton SP C102
Celestron SP 150N
Various Televue, Baader, Orion and other EPS
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rwiederrich
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Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Quote:
Gonna start this one up again. I am currently in possession of the parts for a Towa 60/700 and a Carton 60/1000. I have already painted the Towa tube (Krylon Gloss White). I had it turning for 24 hours. I build fishing rods, and you have to spin the rod slowly while the epoxy on the guide threads cures. The motor I use is from Cabela's, and spins at about 4rpm. It has a lot of torque, so it had no trouble turning that little tube. With a slight alteration, the mandrel (homemade) was able to hold the tube from the inside firmly, and on the other end I built a spinning disc with inset screws with felt on their heads that could be backed out to contact the tube inside and grip it firmly enough to prevent slipping. So the tube was held on both ends, spinning at 4rpm for 24 straight hours, and the finish was perfect. Since I have been on the road since then, I expect the tube's paint will be cured completely when I return home. Can't wait to get it together, and do the same with the Carton.
Doug
That's the way to do it..... I rigged an old BBQ grill motor to rotate my 8' tube for my 6"f/15 when I repainted it.
I painted it while rotating, and let it dry rotating for a day as well.......
No runs, drips or errors. Images are posted on my website.
Rob
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www.goldmtobservingcenter.com
A great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/HomemadeRefractorTelescopes/ My homemade refractor group.
www.vimeo.com/6014031
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desertrefugee
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Anyone care to comment on how the technique(s) described here might vary when we're talking about a reflector sonotube that could use a re-spray?
Body filler vs. spackle vs. ???. Primer and/or Krylon OK? etc, etc.
Thanks.
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"Illimitable ocean, without bound, Without dimension, where length, breadth, and height, And time, and place are lost." - Milton
-Darrell
Reflectors - 76 to 305mm (f4.7 to f9.2)
Refractors - 50 to 120mm (f5 to f16.7)
Binoculars - 6x15 to 22x100
N. Phoenix, AZ
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jblaschke
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Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
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When I refurbished my 645 I used regular carpenter's wood putty to patch the gouges/blemishes in the tube. Now, those old Meades had a fiberlite tube which isn't exactly the same as sonotube, but it's not that far off. The putty dries quickly, doesn't shrink, is easy to sand and takes paint well. It shouldn't be any more complicated for you than that.
As for paint, lots of folks here use Krylon. Just make sure your primer is laid on thick enough. If I had to re-do my scope again, I'd pay a lot more attention to getting a more substantial layer of primer as even the slightest little tube blemish shows up when you apply the glossy stuff.
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Jayme Lynn Blaschke
6" Meade 645: f/5 wide-field Classic
Canon 400D unmodified
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desertrefugee
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And Jayme, I just went through your postings of the 645 restoration. Very nice restoration - and a nice job of making the process both imminently presentable and enjoyable to follow.
(Nice color too!)
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"Illimitable ocean, without bound, Without dimension, where length, breadth, and height, And time, and place are lost." - Milton
-Darrell
Reflectors - 76 to 305mm (f4.7 to f9.2)
Refractors - 50 to 120mm (f5 to f16.7)
Binoculars - 6x15 to 22x100
N. Phoenix, AZ
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chris_nelson
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Loc: Pomona, CA.
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Chris
6" F/8 BOC Refracting telescope
24mm Brandon
1 1/4" Dakin Barlow
Edited by chris_nelson (02/20/09 12:49 PM)
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clintwhitman
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Whats Johns scope got to do with painting refractor Tubes???
John never paints any thing it powder coating or the hyw!! And after the powdercoat its the best ever made!  (aveman!!
Gota love Ponds Check out the Amazing full moon star party post!!
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Clint&Debbie Whitman (aveman
1960s 6"F15 Jaegers-Unipons by John Pons on a Byers 812, 1947 4" F15 TINSLEY, 1965 10" F8 CAVE, 1950 5CM & 6.5CM Nippon Kogakus (the twins), 1960s UNITRONS a 152 restored a 160 numbered green lens original mint a 114 original 50s mint, 1950s UNITRON M100 100mm F15 OTA, WO 80mm Florite, ASTROPHYSICS 155 EDFS on LOSMANDY G11, a bunch of Tascos,Sears Mayflowers The list goes on Add infinitum.
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Lew Chilton
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Here is a fine example of a telescope built around a vintage Zeiss objective lens. Mr. John Pons of North Hollywood, California stands next to his 10"F/16 refracting telescope. The GEM mounting system was built by the Edward R. Byers CO. in Barsto, CA. some years ago. Mr. Pons previously had a 8" telescope upon the same mount. 
Chris, I'm not sure whether I should be upset that you hijacked my picture off the other thread, "Amazing Full Moon Star Party," to use here without mentioning where you got it from. To use a picture as your own is not ethical and against Cloudynight.com policy.
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); 2003 TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1959 Fecker Celestar-4; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1986 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron)
Edited by Glassthrower (02/19/09 04:41 PM)
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tim53
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Perhaps replacing the photo with a link?
(John does amazing work, by the way).
-Tim.
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Someone promised there`d be answers, if we stayed around."
-Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, "The Romance of the Telescope"
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Glassthrower
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I'm sure Chris didn't mean any harm or disrespect, he was just admiring the mammoth Goto Kogaku. Of course, Lew is right about using images without permission. If Lew will grant his retroactive permission and Chris doesn't do it again, I think there is little or no harm done.
I had that same photo on my desktop for a while. But that is personal use and off the internet.
Regards and clear skies,
MikeG
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Meteorites, Moon Rocks, Mars Rocks, Tektites, Fossils, Minerals, Crystals, & Trinitite.
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Lew Chilton
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Thanks, Mike. You said it better than I did. 
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); 2003 TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1959 Fecker Celestar-4; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1986 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron)
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woodsman
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Hi Lew:
That is one terrific picture. Is it ok to download it to my computer and perhaps send it out to people I know? I have a few friends that like to see those large scopes. BTW, have you ever had a chance to view through it?? Rich
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C-14 Orange Tube, C-8, C-5, C-90 Astro Model, C8 Schmidt Camera 8" f1.5, C5.5 Schmidt Camera f1.65, SPI 42mm f/19 Refractor, Sears 90mm f/15.56 Ref, Sears 80mm f/15 Ref, Swift 77mm f/13 Model 831, Scope 60mm f/11.7, Sears 50mm f/12
Unitron Model 140 75mm/1200mm, Unitron model 128 60mm/900mm
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Lew Chilton
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Rich, thanks for asking, I appreciate it. Sure, go ahead and share it.
Yeah, I did have a chance to look thru the 10-inch Zeiss at Jupiter, but we were seeing-limited on that particular night. Caveman's 50mm Nippon Kogaku wasn't nearly as sensitive to the seeing, so it was an outstanding performer and gave views of Jupiter that were very memorable.
Caveman had a chance to use the 10-inch Zeiss over a couple of nights, so could probably provide a better evaluation of it than me.
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); 2003 TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1959 Fecker Celestar-4; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1986 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron)
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woodsman
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Lew,
I'll download that photo. Its truly impressive. Wow, too bad about the seeing with the 10 inch. A chance like that doesn't come along too often. So, how would you rate the Nippon Kogaku compared to your Swift 839? I would imagine that you'd have to be side by side. I know that Clint's certainly sold on them. They do seem to be well designed, but then so are the Swifts IMO.
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C-14 Orange Tube, C-8, C-5, C-90 Astro Model, C8 Schmidt Camera 8" f1.5, C5.5 Schmidt Camera f1.65, SPI 42mm f/19 Refractor, Sears 90mm f/15.56 Ref, Sears 80mm f/15 Ref, Swift 77mm f/13 Model 831, Scope 60mm f/11.7, Sears 50mm f/12
Unitron Model 140 75mm/1200mm, Unitron model 128 60mm/900mm
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Lew Chilton
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Rich,
Sounds like a shootout between the Swift and the Nippon Kogaku is in order. I've only looked thru Clint's 50mm Nippon Kogaku once at Jupiter (see the thread "Amazing Full Moon Star Party"). He has the 50mm and a 65mm. My Swift is 60mm. The test should be conducted at the same time and place with the same star diagonal and eyepieces.
From what I heard of the Nippon Kogaku's performance (mostly from Clint!  ), I'd say that the Nippon Kogaku will edge out the Swift, although I hope I'm wrong.
I suggest we have the shootout next summer at Mt. Pinos, during one of those free-for-all star parties.
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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); 2003 TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1959 Fecker Celestar-4; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1986 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron)
Edited by Lew Chilton (02/21/09 02:37 PM)
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Siderea
Astronomess
Reged: 11/21/05
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Loc: Left Coast
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Now that would be and interesting Shootout!
Lew, I think one time you mentioned that you had had the paint matched to
touch up your 839. Do you have a brand, or color number? Was it brush
on, or spray?
Many thanks!
Carol
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..."Then the blue above grows darker and a million stars erupt
From the places where they hide throughout the day
Into pictures in the heavens even we cannot corrupt
And the vastnesses of time can't wash away..."Jeff Green
60mm Telescope Club
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