Keith g
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According to CBAT's Unconfirmed Observations Page, a new possible nova has been reported in Cyg (mag = 7.7C).
It is noteworthy that the prenova was recorded in IPHAS survey of emission line stars.
194301.9 +321913 (2000.0) IPHAS_J194301.98+321913.5 em R=18.174 R-I=0.651 R-Ha=0.631 MNRAS384,1277
The likely ROSAT identifications:
194301.2 +321908 (2000.0) 1WGAJ1943.0+3219 0.0247 0.15 1.26 1.06 0.42 obs=1993.278 194301.9 +321912 (2000.0) 2RXP_J194302.0+321912 0.0259P 0.97 0.14 931005 194302.1 +321905 (2000.0) 1RXPJ194302+3219.1 0.0260 0.98 0.10
The object is thus potentially a nearby CV undergoing a nova outburst, or was bright at the epoch of ROSAT observations (cf. V2487 Oph). If the object was caught during the rise, it might become a naked-eye nova
Keith..
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zuan_furlan
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An image of this transient is available here: http://remanzacco.blogspot.com/
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RLTYS
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Keith
Thanks for the info. I'll have to check this new nova out plus continue to monitor V2468 Cyg. All I need is some decent weather. Hopefully this weather will clear up.
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This was posted on the AAVSO web site.
V2491 CYGNI (NOVA IN CYGNUS) April 11, 2008
V2491 CYGNI (NOVA IN CYGNUS - NOVA CYG 2008 #2) IAU Circular No. 8934 (D. Green, Ed., Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams) announces the discovery of a nova in Cygnus by Koichi Nishiyama, Kurume, Fukuoka-ken, Japan, and Fujio Kabashima, Miyaki-cho, Saga-ken, Japan, on unfiltered CCD images taken April 10.728 UT at magnitude 7.7. Nothing is visible at this position on their past survey frames taken on Apr. 3.717 (limiting mag 12.5) and 7.727 (limiting mag 12.7).
An apparent independent discovery of this nova at mag ~8.0 by was made by Z.-w. Jin and X. Gao on images taken by Gao on Apr. 10.831 UT at Xingming Observatory, Mt. Nanshan, China (position end figures measured by J. Beize, Beijing, 02.00s, 10.1"; nothing was visible at this position on Xingming images taken on Apr. 8.831 (limiting mag about 14).
K. Haseda (Toyohashi, Aichi, Japan) finds nothing brighter than mag 12.3 on patrol images taken Apr. 4.774 UT.
N. N. Samus, Institute of Astronomy, Moscow, reports that this nova is being assigned the name V2491 Cyg.
Coordinates from Nishiyama and Kabashima: R.A. = 19:43:01.96 Decl. = +32:19:13.8 (equinox 2000.0)
Confirming images by E. Guido and G. Sostero, Remanzacco, Italy, taken April 11 remotely with a 0.25-m reflector near Mayhill, NM, show the nova at position end figures 01.98s, 13.5". They report that a Palomar Oschin Schmidt telescope plate from 1995 Aug. 3 shows an apparent star with red mag ~18 at this location; they also provide the following photometry: (uncertainty +/- 0.05 mag in each color): Apr. 11.36, B = 8.06, V = 7.54, R = 7.04; 11.46, 8.20, 7.77, 7.15. G. Klingenberg, Mo i Rana, Norway, reports the following photometry from CCD images taken with a 25-cm reflector near Mayhill, NM: Apr. 11.333, V = 7.63; 11.335, B = 8.06; 11.440, V = 7.74; 11.443, B = 8.15.
An image by K. Kadota, Ageo, Saitama-ken, Japan, on Apr. 11.741 UT yields mag 7.4 and position end figures 01.98s, 14.1". Kadota notes that a USNO- B1.0-catalogue star has position end figures 02.039s, 13.84" and red magnitudes 15.5 and 16.3 (different epochs from Palomar Sky Survey plates).
CBET 1334 (D. Green, Ed., Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams) announces that K. Ayani, Bisei Astronomical Observatory and K. Matsumoto, Osaka Kyoiku University, Japan, write that low-resolution spectra of V2491 Cyg obtained Apr. 11.72 UT indicate that the object is a nova in its early phase of outburst. Fe II emission may be present.
V2491 Cyg has been added to VSX (pending approval) and has been assigned the identifier VSX J194301.9+321913. It has also been assigned the AAVSO unique ID 000-BFT-191.
A finder chart for the V2491 Cyg field may be generated using VSP: http://www.aavso.org/observing/charts/vsp/ and entering the coordinates. The name V2491 CYG should shortly generate a finder chart as well. A comparison star sequence has not yet been established for V2491 Cyg. Please be sure to indicate all comparison stars used when submitting data.
Visual and photometric observations are requested. Please report your observations to the AAVSO as 'V2491 CYG' (AUID 000-BFT-191).
Congratulations to the discovers of V2491 Cyg!
This AAVSO Special Notice was prepared by Elizabeth O. Waagen.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
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nytecam
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Thanks Keith for the info - here's my shots from tonight Apr 12/13 of Nova Cyg#2 very low in NE through some cloud over London. The lo-res spectrum via a Rainbow Optics grating [interposed before the CCD] confirms it's a nova from classic emission lines including H-alpha at 656nm
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nytecam
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here's a quick lo-res spectrogram of the new nova
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Made my first observation of N Cyg08-2 (V2491 Cyg) this morning (4/13) under partly cloudy skies. Estimated magnitude 9.0 using comp stars 88 and 96.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
-------------------- 10" F4.8 Refl.
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50mm F12 Refr. (Tasco #6TE-5)
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Freddy WILLEMS
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Great image I'll try to image the Nova next clear skies
Freddy
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Reobserved V2491 Cyg this morning (4/14). Estimated mag 9.2 using comp stars 88 and 96.
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V2491 continues to slowly fade. Estimated mag 9.3 using comp stars 88 and 96.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
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Bruce MacDonald
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Thanks for the updates Rich. I was out until 01:30 observing and I did not think to look for the two recent Cygnus novae.
-------------------- Bruce MacDonald
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V2491 Cyg continues to slowly fade. As of this morning (4/16) Estimated mag 9.6 using comp stars 88 and 96.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
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As of 4/18 V2491 continues to fade but seems to have leveled off at mag 9.6.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
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Is this Nova in our Galaxy?
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Nova's are always in our galaxy because we can't see individual stars in other galaxy's.
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nytecam
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here's last night's field shot of Nova Cyg#2 2008 but well clear of the horizon and haze
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Nytecam, excellant photo. V2491 seems to have leveled off in brightness continueing to shine at about mag 9.6. Observation made on the morning of the 25th with 10" refl.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
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50mm F12 Refr. (Tasco #6TE-5)
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zizzapnia
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Quote:
Nova's are always in our galaxy because we can't see individual stars in other galaxy's.
...except in the case of a supernova. I recall viewing one in a UGC galaxy where I couldn't even see the galaxy at all- that's one bright star!
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Freddy WILLEMS
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Indeed Nice image NYtecam ! Freddy
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Orion 80 mm f/7 ED
DFK 21AU04.AS
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After seemingly leveling off V2491 Cyg has started to rapidly fade. As of the morning of 4/30 estimated mag of V2491 Cyg was mag 10.8 using comp stars 106 and 109. Will need a "C" chart to continue observing.
Clear Skies. Rich (RLTYS)
-------------------- 10" F4.8 Refl.
4" F5 Refr.
50mm F12 Refr. (Tasco #6TE-5)
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"I want to do more then just look."
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