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guyinthesky
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meade dsi wont broadcast, help?
      #2331119 - 04/16/08 11:11 AM

i signed up to y live, read the 'tips and tricks for skychannels', finally got 2 cams to work, but the quality is bad, the meade has much better quality, but it wont let me broadcast. i tried it with and without the meade software running, everytime i go to broadcast the 'encountered a problem, windows needs to close, and the page dissapears. kinda stumped, any ideas? hoping to sign up to shychannels as soon as i can get it to work on y live. thanks, john

Edited by guyinthesky (04/16/08 04:11 PM)


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Stephan Lalonde
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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2333203 - 04/17/08 07:52 AM

THe DSI is not considered a video capture device, and as such is not recognized by the yahoo or Ustream broadcast plugins. You need another program to capture the screen like webcammax. What you do is after installing webcammax, start it up before starting your browser. Then when the yahoo or ustream plugin starts, it recognizes that as your "video camera". You then start the meade envisage software and set the webcammax source to capture the screen and limit the capture window to the size of the preview screen in envisage.

Hope this helps.

Stephan Lalonde
OrleansSky
http://live.yahoo.com/orleanssky
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/orleanssky

PS: I am using a Meade DSI to broadcast.


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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: Stephan Lalonde]
      #2333212 - 04/17/08 08:01 AM

Quote:

THe DSI is not considered a video capture device, and as such is not recognized by the yahoo or Ustream broadcast plugins. You need another program to capture the screen like webcammax. What you do is after installing webcammax, start it up before starting your browser. Then when the yahoo or ustream plugin starts, it recognizes that as your "video camera". You then start the meade envisage software and set the webcammax source to capture the screen and limit the capture window to the size of the preview screen in envisage.

Hope this helps.

Stephan Lalonde
OrleansSky
http://live.yahoo.com/orleanssky
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/orleanssky

PS: I am using a Meade DSI to broadcast.




Stephan is absolutely right, but webcammax is 30$ and is known to be a CPU hog. It does work great though, and has a lot of functions. Another option is studiopro which is free, and less demanding on your computer.

Neil

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: smokin oakum]
      #2333251 - 04/17/08 08:33 AM

Do you have a link to studiopro Neil? By the way good show last night

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #2333282 - 04/17/08 09:00 AM

Quote:

Do you have a link to studiopro Neil? By the way good show last night




Thanks Chris. I had a lot of fun, and hope to do it again tonight.

Here is the link.

STUDIOPRO

Neil

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: smokin oakum]
      #2333416 - 04/17/08 10:23 AM

thank you ! i will try that out. appreciate the info. john

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celestron c100ed-r gt cg-5
meade 5" telestar reflector
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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2334154 - 04/17/08 03:54 PM

i downloaded studiopro, but the only cam available on it is the webcam. the dsi wont show in the selection box. do i need to re download the dsi software after the studiopro was installed? thanks, john

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2334198 - 04/17/08 04:14 PM

No, first launch the DSI sofware, and use the studiopro to capture the screen, and then stream the studiopro on the sites.

Neil

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: smokin oakum]
      #2334827 - 04/17/08 10:02 PM

im still stumped, tried what you suggested, the dsi wont show in the selection window, only the other web cam. i reinstalled the dsi software again, didnt help. john

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2334974 - 04/17/08 11:05 PM

Have you tried the 'Web Cast-overwrite file' function in Envisage? Just a thought.

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: jgraham]
      #2335469 - 04/18/08 08:45 AM

I made a quick how to PDF. Check this:

http://lalondefamily.homeip.net/orleanssky/dsi_with_studiopro.pdf


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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: Stephan Lalonde]
      #2335512 - 04/18/08 09:18 AM

yes, i tried the web overwrite file, wouldent work either way. then last nite on skychannels somone was broadcasting saturn with a dsi, asked him how he was doing it,cuz mine wouldent work. he said the dsi went right to yahoo with nothing in between, making me even more confused. i will check out quick how to pdf, i must be missing somthing. thank you. john

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Zhumell 12" dob
celestron c100ed-r gt cg-5
meade 5" telestar reflector
just enuf naglers
astro-tech 66ed
celestron C9 1/4
oberwerk 100-45
ALVAN CLARK and SONS 3 inch refractor
canon 350d


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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2335522 - 04/18/08 09:27 AM

thanks for the pdf, first problem i encountered, followed instructions and order exactly, meade software and image comes up fine, but when i start broadcaster studiopro, it says webcam is not available or is in use in another application. then when i close that window, the normal studiopro window pops up and the only selection available is my other webcam which is not even plugged in. i guess the studiopro cannot tell the dsi is available. thanks for your patience. john

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Zhumell 12" dob
celestron c100ed-r gt cg-5
meade 5" telestar reflector
just enuf naglers
astro-tech 66ed
celestron C9 1/4
oberwerk 100-45
ALVAN CLARK and SONS 3 inch refractor
canon 350d


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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2335558 - 04/18/08 09:48 AM

At that point, it doesn't matter what you choose as a source camera, since we are not going to use Studiopro in that fashion. As well, your DSI will never show up anywhere as an option because it is not a video capture device.

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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: Stephan Lalonde]
      #2335615 - 04/18/08 10:18 AM

i got it ! wooohooo ! stephan, your last post confused me as it seems it would never work. where i was going wrong was as you said, it will never recognise it as a capture device, it hadent occured to me to use the video capture record to capture the screen of the dsi. it was right under my nose the whole time. thanks everyone, there is good info here to the next person who has trouble with a dsi. much appreciated. john

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Zhumell 12" dob
celestron c100ed-r gt cg-5
meade 5" telestar reflector
just enuf naglers
astro-tech 66ed
celestron C9 1/4
oberwerk 100-45
ALVAN CLARK and SONS 3 inch refractor
canon 350d


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Re: meade dsi wont broadcast, help? new [Re: guyinthesky]
      #2335644 - 04/18/08 10:32 AM

Glad I was able to help. Looking forward to seeing you on a live session sometime.

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