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David Pavlich
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Re: WidowMaker's observatory project under way! new [Re: John Fitzgerald]
      #2499592 - 07/04/08 03:51 PM

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If he wires it and uses an extension cord to go from the house to a plug on the outside of the building, it would be considered temporary wiring, not unlike plugging in a tool. This would remove any chance of trouble when not actually using the obs. I did mine that way to avoid digging a ditch.




This is exactly what I was going to do until I talked to the previous owner of our home and found out that there was viable wiring already running directly under the spot where I'm erecting my observatory. I think the extension cord is a simple and effective solution.

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Re: WidowMaker's observatory project under way! new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #2499881 - 07/04/08 07:10 PM

Thanks alot, yall.
The ideas are fantastic and something that sounds alot easier to do.
I think we could get away with the drop cord 'non permanent' solution. The wife says dont worry about it for now and use the extension cord. She still wants it done by someone that knows what their doing. If we got a few estimates, then we could see how bad we were being jacked.

When we bought our dishwasher, Lowe's gave us a guy they suggested who did a great job, cheap too. Were trying to find his number.

I just put together a cheap little desk and we took it out there. Now if we can get her wonderful mom up here (from the other end of the state) shell be bringing a conputer, and the portable air conditioner.

I cant wait.

Of course, it looks like rain and clouds for the foreseeable future right now, go figure, eh.

Im still trying to locate a night vision red-bulb and that cool Messier catalog poster ive seen in other peoples obs'.


Happy 4th everyone!


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Re: WidowMaker's observatory project under way! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2500012 - 07/04/08 09:10 PM

I'm trying to find it for youbut no luck so far. I did find this website with lots of astronomy related photos for you though

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Re: WidowMaker's observatory project under way! new [Re: Snow dog]
      #2500061 - 07/04/08 10:09 PM

Red bulb source: www.lightbulbsdirect.com They shipped very promptly, had good prices. I bought a box of 10 - 7.5 watt 130 volt bulbs and one 25 watt red bulb.

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Re: WidowMaker's observatory project under way! new [Re: John Fitzgerald]
      #2500612 - 07/05/08 11:09 AM

Mornin, Yall.
Thanks alot Marc, and John. Im going to use both those sites!

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2519498 - 07/15/08 12:17 AM

It has been a while since I have checked up on this thread. I am honored that you have seriously considered my suggestion for the name of your Observatory! I really feel that Sleepless Nights Observatory is fitting for all you have gone through. As many others have said, Great Job!!!! You are going to enjoy many nights under the stars, and no worries about hauling that big old Z12 back in.

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: RS67Man]
      #2519741 - 07/15/08 05:52 AM

It's way past time for an update. Have you had the naming ceremony yet.....

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: THEPLOUGH]
      #2520439 - 07/15/08 01:21 PM

Lol...naw, Geoff. Ive been too busy just trying to enjoy the fruits of our labor.

Its been awsome so far. Theres a few bumps here and there, but it is fantastic not having to move stuff around anymore.
The wife's gother bedroom back, and has already put a curio (sp?) cabinet where the dob use to sit. Now instead of a big ole black tube watching over us sleep, its creepy dolls and stuff.

Ive been taking notes and writing down what I see and trying to make little sketches of my views, its something that has (I think) helped me see more.

Since Ive had my observatory ive seen Jupiter (I watch it every night now!) and have also noticed this think called the 'Milky Way' almost directly overhead. ive never seen it here, but now that im in my little dark cave, the view is much better I believe.

Im loving it!

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I am honored that you have seriously considered my suggestion for the name of your Observatory! I really feel that Sleepless Nights Observatory is fitting for all you have gone through. As many others have said, Great Job!!!! You are going to enjoy many nights under the stars, and no worries about hauling that big old Z12 back in.





Thank you, Walt! Your name just kind of stuck with me, and I tend to call it "sleepless Nights Observatory' even to myself.
The wife on the other hand says that since im so twisted and dark most of the time, she thinks it doesnt suit the Heavy Metal/dark side of me.

I like it.

Since ive been going out there, Ive seen three Unknown Flying Objects (dont laugh!) that I was able to track very briefly, Im sure they are either sattelites, or space debris left in our orbit, but to me they are UFO's.....not with little green men, but things that are not stars, planets, or airplanes.

The other night (7/6/08) at about 3-3:30 a.m. after noticing that one of Jupiters moons had vanished, I thought I saw a little black spot on the face of Jupiter and wondered if I was seeing a moon crossing in front of it.

Ive also made notes and pathetic attempts to draw M27, M71, M57 (Ring Nebula-that was easy to draw!), and Sunday night was able to find m13, M97, C6(NGC 6543) C55 (Saturn nebula), and M11 The Wild Duck Cluster which I spent considerable time watching.

Oh, and the Blinking Nebula C15, which seemed to be playing tricks with me, because it did seem to be blinking until Id avert my vision beside it somewhat then I could see the whiteness of it again. Very cool!

So far, its been awesome.

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2520456 - 07/15/08 01:30 PM

.. Now that's what I call an observing report. Try and post some sketches if you can too, I am so pleased that you are enjoying yourself, you certainly deserve it... Clear skies to you my friend....

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2521495 - 07/15/08 11:30 PM

Fantastic first light report! So glad you are enjoying your new Observatory so much!

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: csa/montana]
      #2531589 - 07/21/08 10:32 AM

I have been following this post for weeks, but this is my first comment: AMAZING WORK! The effort, can-do approach, and self-education that you and your wife have shown is nothing short of remarkable. Congratulations on undertaking such a large project so fearlessly!

The final result is very impressive!

Wishing you some clear skies to enjoy from your new home,
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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: soreneck]
      #2531646 - 07/21/08 10:59 AM

Thank you very much, Adam, Carol, and Geoff!

Im so proud of it. Last night was horrible with wind that picked up our metal patio table and flung it off the deck, the pools floats across the yard, and garbage can lids flung down the street...but my observatory is still standing!

Now, if I can just muster up the manliness to go in there and do battle with the Wasps nest and the great big spider web that looks like its owner is living inside my angle iron!

I took my reflectix out yesterday and thought about putting some up and got chased out by wasps. Weve got them everywhere this year. I got the 25ft. 'stream of death' can for Wasps, but I dont wanna spray it inside my obs!

Coward?
Who said that?!

Oh wait...it was me!

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2532596 - 07/21/08 06:36 PM

I hang a swatter just inside my warm room (that doesn't get wasps), so that when I go in the obs part I am "armed" from the get go...

I won't spray INSIDE there either...

One night one crawled across my ear; I swatted it down (not knowing what it was, and when I shone my flashlight down on it - and saw it was a wasp - I fReAkeD out!

I basically go out there every day to "wasp hunt" so's they can't get a nest going...

They seem to LOVE fresh woodwork that's out in the sun...

Congrats again, Michael!

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: Bowmoreman]
      #2532614 - 07/21/08 06:45 PM

Wasps have not been getting into my obs. so far (about seven weeks since completion). Maybe it's luck or good sealing and screening. I have had to spray for ants and crickets though (removed equipment first).

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: John Fitzgerald]
      #2533015 - 07/21/08 09:14 PM

It's a very counter intuitive thing to do but try not to swing at a wasp or hornet, doing so usually generates an attack response in them ... so the swatter is generally a bad idea. Usually when they land on you they are usually just exploring, but when they are aggravated then yeah they can be looking for a spot to sting you. I've found that gently blowing on a non aggravated wasp will usually get them back on their way.

Going on a daily "patrol" using one of the commercial long distance spays can be very effective around a house or in an observatory. If you end up with a large nest inside the observatory then while kind of nasty one of the commercial whole room "bombs" may be necessary. They aren't pleasant but at least they prevent you from having to do battle with the little darlings up close and personal like.

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: mclewis1]
      #2533137 - 07/21/08 10:05 PM

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It's a very counter intuitive thing to do but try not to swing at a wasp or hornet, doing so usually generates an attack response in them ... so the swatter is generally a bad idea. Usually when they land on you they are usually just exploring, but when they are aggravated then yeah they can be looking for a spot to sting you. I've found that gently blowing on a non aggravated wasp will usually get them back on their way.

Going on a daily "patrol" using one of the commercial long distance spays can be very effective around a house or in an observatory. If you end up with a large nest inside the observatory then while kind of nasty one of the commercial whole room "bombs" may be necessary. They aren't pleasant but at least they prevent you from having to do battle with the little darlings up close and personal like.




When I swing...

I try NOT to miss on the first swing...

else you are right... it tends to *BLEEP* them off... if you don't get em on the first swing... get OUT of there! (and let em calm down)...

but I won't spray (or bomb) inside or out... too much risk (IMO) to all my optics...

I find best to just "keep up on things" - daily hygiene and all that...

they ARE just bugs, after all... albeit nasty stingy ones!

clear enough skies

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: mclewis1]
      #2533145 - 07/21/08 10:08 PM

Thanks Yall.
I had a brainfart earlier. I think.

I went and checked and there were about three or four buzzing in and out of what looked like the makings of a nest.
I took the can of air cleaner I had bought for blowing off my mirror (dont do it with Air in a can!) out to the nest and turned it upside down and sprayed for a second. In less than a second or two it was shooting out 'frozen death' so I turned it on the nest and almost instantly they all dropped to the floor and I could hear tiny little death rattles consuming them (not really but I was listening!), and I quickly snuffed them out with the hammer I forgot to put away.

I then sprayed the nest really good and threw it into the neighbors yard. Shhh!

The upside down can of air felt freezing cold to my arm too.
Its very effective if you can get it right on them and I dont think anything lingering will hurt the dob.

Schweet!

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2533233 - 07/21/08 10:55 PM

Michael, I was just commenting the other day about how few wasps I see around the house, deck, and observatory. I probably have only killed a dozen or so this whole year while it seemed last year I had that many every week.

One thing that may help, I hate to admit it, but my wife bought some of those electronic bug repellers for the garage spiders. It did not work there so I said what the heck and put them in the observatory, still have a few spiders but I think the wasps don't like it so maybe that has helped.

Anyways I'll remember the sub-zero blast trick next time I see one.

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! new [Re: DeanS]
      #2533301 - 07/21/08 11:38 PM

Lol...give it a try, Dean!
Sure cant hurt...well...it might sting a little if you miss!

I keep seeing that commerical for the plug in the wall insect repeller thingie, that what you got? Complete with the 'but wait, if you act now-well throw in a second bug repeller thingie' sell point?

Everytime it comes on my boys always ask why that woman in the shower doesnt see the bug right in front of her, you know, the fake added in bug that isnt really there. Makes me snicker everytime.

Im gonna try moth balls I think. Seems like ive heard those work against spiders pretty well. I dont care about bad smells, im more scared of Black widows than bad smells.

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Re: Sleepless Nights Observatory ! [Re: WidowMaker]
      #2533315 - 07/21/08 11:47 PM

I try to keep a few mothballs in mine. It seems to discourage pests. I will say, though, for some reason this has not been a bad year for wasps.
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