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NHRob
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mirror box designs?
      #2379938 - 05/08/08 11:07 AM

I'm playing around with my 12.5" f/6 truss dob design some more. I was thinking of standard 8-truss with orthoganal mirror box but .... I'm less satisfied with that.
I'd like to do something different. Anybody got "funky" designs they'd liek to post pics of?
Looking for inspiration, not to copy.

Thanks,
Rob

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TEC-140: #433 on CGEM
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Chriske
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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: NHRob]
      #2379983 - 05/08/08 11:32 AM

Maybe this can help...?

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NHRob
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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: Chriske]
      #2379999 - 05/08/08 11:41 AM

neat!
I'm thining more of a 6-pole now.
Rob

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: NHRob]
      #2380070 - 05/08/08 12:07 PM Attachment (57 downloads)

My 12.5" f/6.3 came out kind of funky - the whole hexagonal idea flowed naturally from attaching the mirror cell's three mounting bolts directly to the lower truss poles. The split tube is handy for getting in and out of the house - one bulky but light unit, the other heavy but small. Total OTA weight is 40 lbs. I very loosely applied R.F. Royce's web-published design (but left off the rotating head to save weight).

If this helps inspire your own ideas, great, but take its lessons too. Few would want to copy this newt-on-a-GEM that's way too big for the LXD-75 that it sits on (although the OTA is very sturdy). This thing could be dob-mounted without any more surgery than attaching bearing rings to either side of the center box. Wobbles and ladder-climbing aside, it has been a pleasure on both deep-space and planets. So I think you chose a great spec. Good luck on your own version.

Please bear with me as I don't have a web site to channel the pictures through. Hopefully it comes through in an attachment.

jg3
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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: jg3]
      #2380142 - 05/08/08 12:34 PM Attachment (50 downloads)

Here's a 12 inch single pole

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Edited by RossSackett (05/08/08 12:35 PM)


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: NHRob]
      #2380222 - 05/08/08 01:11 PM Attachment (48 downloads)

Twin-strut 10" f/5 with integrated curved secondary support and light shield.

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Jeff Morgan
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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: NHRob]
      #2381774 - 05/09/08 12:04 AM

Rob,

I just finished a 12.5" f/6 Dob, 6 pole carbon fiber truss and carbon fiber light shield. This weekend I should be able to get some photos and post on this forum.

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #2381910 - 05/09/08 01:08 AM Attachment (48 downloads)

I am redoing a 14.5" I am going to a 6 tube. I plan to put the mirror cell in this.

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: bbriggs]
      #2381952 - 05/09/08 01:56 AM

A light bucket?

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10" Homebuilt dob, old Coulter mirror

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: llanitedave]
      #2382284 - 05/09/08 08:41 AM

Cool handles, too. Muy clever. Gives me an idea for my next travelscope.

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"A craftsman relies on science when the state of knowledge allows it, tradition and experience when it does not, and makes art whenever he can."

12 scopes from 4.25 to 18" and a 24" in progress. 12 ATM awards. Webpage: http://stardazed.com/ Some more scope pix at http://www.flickr.com/photos/8315630@N04/
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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: RossSackett]
      #2382326 - 05/09/08 09:10 AM Attachment (49 downloads)

42" f/5. - j

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120ED, 12" f/5 Green Goblin, 6" f/5 Eero2, 4.5" f/8 PortaBowl, 8" f/5 Big Red Ed.

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: jayscheuerle]
      #2382413 - 05/09/08 09:59 AM

Jeff,
Cool! Can't wait to see pics.

Rob

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TEC-140: #433 on CGEM
Faworski orthos (7,10,16.7mm)
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" Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" !!


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: jayscheuerle]
      #2382468 - 05/09/08 10:25 AM

Jay,

DEFINITELY. It still looks like a Luxo lamp to me. That is such an organic design--it looks so friendly. Kinda like an oversized robot puppy, always delighted to see you.

Ross

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"A craftsman relies on science when the state of knowledge allows it, tradition and experience when it does not, and makes art whenever he can."

12 scopes from 4.25 to 18" and a 24" in progress. 12 ATM awards. Webpage: http://stardazed.com/ Some more scope pix at http://www.flickr.com/photos/8315630@N04/
Anagrams: Amateur astronomer = A mature moon-starer; Dobsonian maker = Debonair as monk


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: RossSackett]
      #2382473 - 05/09/08 10:27 AM

...and I see you have the new 6" diameter Ethos...

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12 scopes from 4.25 to 18" and a 24" in progress. 12 ATM awards. Webpage: http://stardazed.com/ Some more scope pix at http://www.flickr.com/photos/8315630@N04/
Anagrams: Amateur astronomer = A mature moon-starer; Dobsonian maker = Debonair as monk


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: RossSackett]
      #2383332 - 05/09/08 03:56 PM

Looks like a crazy amusement park ride J.... I love your designs by the way... Very well done and very well thought out...

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Edited by Darenwh (05/09/08 05:39 PM)


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: RossSackett]
      #2383385 - 05/09/08 04:16 PM

Quote:

...and I see you have the new 6" diameter Ethos...




Not to mention the 8" AP finder scope....

Jarad

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: Jarad]
      #2384456 - 05/10/08 12:48 AM Attachment (37 downloads)

Kinda of a "How NOT to do it" with a couple neat options. Notice the large wheels and post hole digger handles. Makes for very easy yard travel and the handle let me rotate the scope easier.

The base is standard fair from Astro-System plans about 15-20 years ago. And way too heavy. Works though.

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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: rboe]
      #2384499 - 05/10/08 01:27 AM

Yeah, notice that if you run over the dog with it, you can cause some real damage!

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"S.O.E." (Sauron's Other Eye), with 16" Royce conical mirror: A permanent work in progress.
10" Homebuilt dob, old Coulter mirror

Under Construction: The "Eye of Sauron" Observatory!


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Re: mirror box designs? new [Re: llanitedave]
      #2384571 - 05/10/08 03:13 AM

Quote:

Yeah, notice that if you run over the dog with it, you can cause some real damage!




In my opinion he already did.
Yep, looks dead to me....!

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Re: mirror box designs? [Re: Chriske]
      #2384673 - 05/10/08 07:20 AM

Ron,
Looks very nice.
You really should bury that dog, though!

Rob



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Canon 12x36 IS binos
TEC-140: #433 on CGEM
Faworski orthos (7,10,16.7mm)
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