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Pedestal
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60mm project
      #2395184 - 05/14/08 03:58 PM Attachment (80 downloads)

Thought some folks would like to see a few shots of my 60mm project. It's not complete yet, still have some stuff to do but it's mostly complete.
Everything except the lens/lens cell was fabricated or purchased new.
Hubert

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2395187 - 05/14/08 03:59 PM Attachment (55 downloads)

left side

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2395190 - 05/14/08 04:00 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

right side

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2395194 - 05/14/08 04:00 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

front

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2395211 - 05/14/08 04:07 PM

That's a sharp looking scope Hubert, great job!
I like the long dew shield too.
What's left?

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Sky Captain]
      #2395233 - 05/14/08 04:18 PM

Great looking scope.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Sky Captain]
      #2395328 - 05/14/08 04:57 PM

Thanks, Kerry/Zach
I have some brass knobs on order to replace the plastic focuser knobs. I also want to motorize at least the RA, if not both. And I need to fabricate a cover for the dew shield. And I will probably flock the tube down to the first baffle. Just odds and ends. I wanted to get it together enough to try it out, if the weather ever cooperates!
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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2395414 - 05/14/08 05:28 PM

Errrr...that would be "future classic"!



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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Jim Rosenstock]
      #2395892 - 05/14/08 08:15 PM

Nice looking scope.

On motorizing..there are still some obsolete Meade 492 motor kits kicking around, I think Telescope Warehouse may have some even though they're not listed on the site. Just inquire with them. These kits are nice because the motors work fine with the 494/495/497 Autostar handsets, all you need to do is fabricate a way to couple in the gear drives. They are the right size for your mount, I intend to use them on a very similar Tasco mount.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: MtnGoat]
      #2395980 - 05/14/08 08:56 PM

Hey, thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.
Hubert
edited to add: they did have some, and I picked one up!

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2397404 - 05/15/08 12:43 PM

Here is the build story, if anyone is interested:
I started with an old Swift 60x810 objective lens and cell. I found this 60's era glass to be -very- good. (I would not do this project with marginal glass).
First, I did a raytrace on a sheet of butcher paper. This gave me the locations for baffles, focuser, etc. I ordered some 2.5" x 1/8" wall tubing from Online Metals. On receipt, I took it to a local machine shop and had them cut to length, thread for the objective cell, and ream the rear to proper size for the 1.25 focuser that I had ordered from Island Eyepiece.
Then I assembled the tube and ran some tests to make sure the tube length was correct, and see if it actually worked. (it did).
A section of 3" aluminum tube, a section of 1.5" solid brass rod, and another trip to the machine shop and I had my dewshield and balance weight. I also had him cut some 1/2" ring sections off the scrap 2.5" tube.
Cutting a section out of the rings, they became "springs" that I inserted in the telescope tube as baffle holders. Half inch turned out to be too wide(too stiff)-I should have made them 3/8" or 1/4" wide. But I managed to get them into the tube. The baffles themselves were cut on the drill press with a "circle cutting" bit. The material was some plastic sign material I picked up at Home Depot. After cutting, I covered them with flocking paper. The procedure was to tap a ring into position, drop in a baffle, tap another ring in to sandwich the baffle between rings to keep it in place.
The pillars for the sliding weight were drawn out by me, transferred to a cardboard pattern and cut out of 1/2" aluminum plate with a jig saw. I drilled/tapped for the brass screw that holds the weight in position. The brass rod is kept from shifting by SS set screws with a soft tip, with 8-32 threaded holes in the top of the pillars. (did I mention McMaster-Carr has me on their speed dial? )
The Orion 6x30 finder required a bit of work. The mounting shoe was designed to fit large diameter (dob) tube. So I used an epoxy product designed for bedding rifles to cast a perfect fit to the tube. I also drill/tapped a hole (the boss was already there) in the riser stem, with the intention of possibly mounting a laser pointer.
The paint does not show up well in the photos. It's actually and old ivory color, and the focuser and lens cell are a pastel green which goes very well. Quite pretty.
The Mount:
The mount is an older EQ1, purchsed used from Astromart. It had the usual black wrinkle finish. It was stripped, cleaned and bead blasted (I have one of those small blasters that look like a paint gun. Harbor Freight sells glass beads for blasting. A cardboard box served as a cabinet. If you do this wear leather gloves, a dust mask, and a face shield!)
The parts were then repainted "machinery grey". On reassembly, I used some teflon sheet in a couple of places as "bearing material". Most of the screws/knobs were replaced with SS units. Currently, it sits on an Orion HD tripod. (Future plans include a rolling steel pier) The eyepiece holders were made from a circa WWI/II leather ammo carrier. Excess leather was trimmed off, they were soaked in water, and the pill bottles inserted the leather stretched to fit and then allowed to dry. Works quite well.
Hubert

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2397477 - 05/15/08 01:19 PM

Prediction ...

When you take it to a star party, all of those other telescope owners with their larger-aperture commercial scopes, or the ones they spent thousands on, will look through it and say, "I didn't know you could see that much with only 60mm!"

Nice job.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: RRavneberg]
      #2397653 - 05/15/08 02:42 PM

Kinda was waiting for a comment from Ron. How true, how true!
Keith


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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411166 - 05/21/08 04:44 PM Attachment (17 downloads)

Motorizing update:
The Meade 492 motor sets worked quite well. It was actually pretty simple.

Two of these came in the kit, the big flange on the right screws on to the motor in the original application.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411171 - 05/21/08 04:47 PM Attachment (17 downloads)

Here is the Meade part shown with the worm gear out of the EQ1. It looks -much- larger in the pic, but it's actually only slightly larger.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411177 - 05/21/08 04:50 PM Attachment (11 downloads)

I took one of the worm shafts out of the Meade housing, and after some examination, I thought it would work. Had to ream one hole in the EQ1 worm housing for the Meade worm to fit. Pretty simple. (sorry about the blurred picture-I was trying to get close enough to show some detail)

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411184 - 05/21/08 04:52 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

The Meade worm shaft needed to be spaced out a bit for a good fit, since the worm itself is slightly smaller than the EQ1 unit. So, the spacer became the mount for the motor drive. I did have to saw the attachment flange off the plastic housing for space reasons.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411186 - 05/21/08 04:53 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

From the rear, showing the motor attachment screws.

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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411194 - 05/21/08 04:56 PM

cool atmer hard at work...i see this is so informative i have added it to favs...
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Re: 60mm project new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2411195 - 05/21/08 04:56 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

A small project box from Radio Shack encloses the motor controller. Right now, everything is "tie wrapped" to the tripod. I'll figure out a good mounting system after it's all tested "for real"...

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