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Why quantum mechanics might be wrong new
      #2402100 - 05/17/08 03:18 PM

Observations of the cosmic microwave background might deal blow to theory.

Quantum mechanics has always been about uncertainty. Now even that uncertainty might be uncertain

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Re: Why quantum mechanics might be wrong new [Re: Mike Casey]
      #2402257 - 05/17/08 04:48 PM

Nice read, thanks Mike!

I don't really like the title though. It's more like quantum mechanics might not be quite right! Single quantum events have been observed. Quantum theory works to a pretty good level. This new observation, if confirmed would indicate we've got more work to do!


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Re: Why quantum mechanics might be wrong [Re: Dipole]
      #2402523 - 05/17/08 07:11 PM

Point 1: Bohmian mechanics is not an alternative theory it is a non-standard interpretation of quantum mechanics. The same one posed by Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen decades ago.

Point 2. This interpretation was proposed by David Bohm. It an extension of the work of Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen, EPR, who did not accept that a particle has no definite value for a quantum number prior to observation.

Point 3. Experimentation done in the late 70s and early 80s at Berkeley and Texas A&M showed that EPR were wrong. ( for details see Chapter 4 Entangling Space in ‘The Fabric of the Cosmos’.)

Point 4. It is not clear to me that if the CMB shows what Dr Valentini expects that this proves QM is wrong. It is also possible that other elements of the theory from which the CMB was derived are in error. This would have to be sorted out at that time.

Conclusion:

The article presents the idea as if it is a new one and suggest that most physics are somehow on the fence on this issue. The Bohmian interpretation has too many problems to list here. I am not saying that the idea is wrong, only that the article did not sufficiently disclose its origins and short comings. For example the fact that experimental evidence exist to support the standard interpretation and exclude the Bohmian view. No matter what is seen in the CMB the experimental evidence for the standard interpretation still stands.

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