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Myles
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Reged: 03/25/06
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Loc: Seattle, Washington
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I had a beautiful weekend on the Washington State coast - 90 degrees, beach, warm surf, camping, kite flying with my daughters. Bonus was a 2 AM wake up to dark clear skies and a setting gibbous moon leaving behind the milky way for 2.5 hours of viewing with my 9x63 Orions.
I did alot of viewing above 60 degrees and came to thinking I might like to have RDF on my Paragon.
Anyone put a Far-sight on to their Paragon mount or know if it is possible - there are two holes in the Paragon if the l-bracket is removed. I assume they are 1/4-20s - but don't know if the Far-sight has the same and same alignment.
Thanks,
Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
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Wobrak
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Try this info.
Far-Sight Video
CN Review
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Tony Flanders
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Reged: 05/18/06
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Loc: Cambridge, MA, USA
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Anyone put a Far-sight on to their Paragon mount or know if it is possible
Funny you should ask. We were just talking about that yesterday at Sky & Telescope since my boss (Rick Fienberg) is trying to do precisely that. The answer is that it's easy as long as you have a tame machinist. (Ours is called Dennis di Cicco.)
You can't do anything obvious because the FAR-Sight, like any normal bino adapter, has a threaded hole designed to accept a 1/4-20 screw coming up from the bottom, whereas the Paragon's adapter has two unthreaded holes designed to take 1/4-20 screws going down into a block with threaded holes.
Probably the easiest solution would be to drill a long hole straight through the Paragon's block between the two existing threaded holes, then insert a long 1/4-20 bolt through it. You could do that, with care, using a hand-drill and a vice, though a drill press would work much better.
Dennis is planning to make a male-to-male adapter out of a block of aluminum, but that's a much bigger job.
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EdZ
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the Orion Adapter for the Paragon should handle the situation very well.
Orion Paragon Adapter $29.95
edz
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Myles
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You can't do anything obvious because the FAR-Sight, like any normal bino adapter, has a threaded hole designed to accept a 1/4-20 screw coming up from the bottom, whereas the Paragon's adapter has two unthreaded holes designed to take 1/4-20 screws going down into a block with threaded holes.
Tony and Ed - Thanks for the info.
I am curious. It looks like there are 4 other holes on the Far-sight base - at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock, Are they threaded or unthreaded?
Wouldn't they serve the purpose of coming down from the top into the Paragon block 1/4-2- threaded holes?
Also, the CN Review appears to show the Far-sight mounted thru the center hole from the top down with a hex-cap screw? Any option there? Could you thread a single 1/4-20 down into one of the two Paragon block holes?
The orion adaptor pushes the price to about $100 - I'd like to get a solution without it.
Thanks,
Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
PST DS, WO66 white light
35Pan, 27Pan, 14XW, 10XW, 7XW, 5XW, 3.5XW
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EdZ
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I am curious. It looks like there are 4 other holes on the Far-sight base - at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock, Are they threaded or unthreaded?
Wouldn't they serve the purpose of coming down from the top into the Paragon block 1/4-2- threaded holes?
I think those are rivets.
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Myles
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OK - I get it - single hole in the Far-sight.
Any chance one could thread a 1/4-20 hex/cap screw top down thru the center of the Far-sight base?
If so then it might be secure enough to thread into one of the exposed Paragon holes. I only have this one mount that I wish to use the Far-sight on.
- Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
PST DS, WO66 white light
35Pan, 27Pan, 14XW, 10XW, 7XW, 5XW, 3.5XW
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EdZ
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Actually, I was wrong about that, They are all holes on the bottom.
One threaded hole in the midlle for 14x20 screw.
Two holes 4.3-4.5mm, unthreaded, on either side of that, spaced 28mm apart c-c.
Two more front to back, same spacing.
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Myles
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Ed / Tony:
well those hole are wider than the Paragon block - whose holes are .75 inches ( ~19mm) apart. They 4.5mm is smaller than a 1/4-20 I believe.
Wonder if one 1/4-20 down through the center hole of Far-sight base into the Paragon block ( one of the two existing 1/4-20 holes) would work?
Otherwise that leaves
A) the orion adaptor
B) drilling from the other end of the block to make a central hole
C) maybe drilling two small holes to match the 4.5mm 28mm apart holes on the Far-Sight.
- Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
PST DS, WO66 white light
35Pan, 27Pan, 14XW, 10XW, 7XW, 5XW, 3.5XW
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Tony Flanders
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Dennis's solution (yet to be tried in practice) was to drill two holes in the upright part of the tripod adapter that comes with the Paragon mount matching the holes in the bottom, then tap them with 1/4-20 threads. It's a very simple solution if you know somebody with a 1/4-20 tap.
Having done that, the adapter now serves double duty. Install as usual for normal use, or turn on its side and get the equivalent of Orion's adapter for use with binos that have a built-in tripod thread on the bottom. It remains to be seen if this actually works in practice; the bottom of the adapter may bump into something when it's turned on side.
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Tony Flanders
eyeglasses
6x15 and 8x32 monoculars
8x25, 7x35, 10x30 IS, 10x50, and 15x70 binoculars
70mm and 100mm achromatic refractors
4.5", 7", and 12.5" Dobs
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Farpoint
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Reged: 08/15/07
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We're designing an adapter to put the Far-Sight on the Paragon. We should have a prototye in a week or two and will need somone to test.
Thanks!
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Myles
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Farpoint,
a paragon adaptor proto-type - great.
Have you lined up a beta tester?
- Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
PST DS, WO66 white light
35Pan, 27Pan, 14XW, 10XW, 7XW, 5XW, 3.5XW
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Farpoint
Vendor (farpointastro.com)
Reged: 08/15/07
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The four holes on the bottom of the FAR-Sight surrounding the 1/4"x20 mounting hole are alignment holes that can be used with the location pin found on many tripod adapter plates to prevent the FAR-Sight from rotating on the top of the adapter plate. The holes are positioned at 90 degrees to accommodate different pin locations on various adapter plates. The location of the holes also allow the user to decide on the orientation of the FAR-Sight in order to reach closer to zenith when mounted on some tripod heads which have an adapter plate with the alignment pin. This can be accomplished by pointing the vertical adjustment handle away from the observer. It is not as convenient as the normal orientation, but it does allow the tripod head to tilt further back.
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Myles
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Loc: Seattle, Washington
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Well, I ended up getting a Farpoint and the Orion adapter for my Paragon as there did not seem to be straight forward way to it otherwise.
Here is a pic of the setup.
- Myles
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Seattle, WA
100ED, SV80ED, SV115 on order
PST DS, WO66 white light
35Pan, 27Pan, 14XW, 10XW, 7XW, 5XW, 3.5XW
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viperbob
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Reged: 08/20/07
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Loc: New Jersey
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Very very nice setup. You must have hours of enjoyment using this setup. Nice..........
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