rwiederrich
Goldfinger
   
Reged: 11/17/05
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Well as long as you two are happy that's really all that matters. The rest of us will muddle thru although I have few wants in regards to my equipment. Getting the observatory finished with chart racks and corner storage etc. Motorization of the roof etc. New painting and CD changer and wired for XM radio etc. Mike
Shut..p maan.... Your OB is as sweet as it gets........now it's got a motorized roof....
I'm green.....
Rob
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
   
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Here are some more pix of my work on the RA axis.
I'm measuring the side plates.
Rob
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
   
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Here is a pic of one of the top plate side plates getting milled to receive the brass bearing.
Rob
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jcjr
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That's a big mount Rob! Lookin good as far as I can tell. Though that is hardly an endorsement since I'm ignorant of mechanical stuff and easily impressed (grin).
There was earlier discussion of ball bearings for big mounts. Not exactly new tech, but of course brass bearings have served well even longer, at least since the age of steam.
Since I don't know nothin about the topic and would like to learn... Am curious what factors made you decide to use brass bearings with grease fittings, rather than ball bearings? Seems either would work fine. Just curious about design reasoning in this application.
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
   
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That's a big mount Rob! Lookin good as far as I can tell. Though that is hardly an endorsement since I'm ignorant of mechanical stuff and easily impressed (grin).
There was earlier discussion of ball bearings for big mounts. Not exactly new tech, but of course brass bearings have served well even longer, at least since the age of steam.
Since I don't know nothin about the topic and would like to learn... Am curious what factors made you decide to use brass bearings with grease fittings, rather than ball bearings? Seems either would work fine. Just curious about design reasoning in this application.
Well several reasons. One reason is I can get more surface area contact with brass/bronze bearings. If machined to very fine tolerances...these bearings work exceptionally well. Second...Roller bearings require you to engineer the mount a bit bigger to accomodate the bearing outer dimeter.
Ball bearings are best for axis that are moving at speed, and when low friction is paramount. In my application, brass bearings are the ticket. And I am making the top bearing part of the *housing* and can use the mass of the bearing structure to be *part* of the upper support.
Lastly...this is for a mount generally designed and intended for visual use. Still the tolerances are close, and movement will be smooth and slop free.
I hope there will be enough room for greese...... 
OH...and it was the *easiest* to machine. 
Rob(I am not a skilled machinist)
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jcjr
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Thanks, Rob.
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danm
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Reged: 04/27/08
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Loc: Northern California
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What mill/lathe is that, and can I ask how much it cost you? How do you like it?
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8" f/6.3 Newtonian (Dad's ATM) & AT66 red tube
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rwiederrich
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What mill/lathe is that, and can I ask how much it cost you? How do you like it?
I believe it is from Central Machining. It's an older model that was liquidated. It went for around $700...I got this one for $500. It does everything I want it to do, and it is precise enough to do the job well. I love the combo set-up. I have a small shop so it fits my needs well.
Rob
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jcjr
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Rob, will yours do threading?
I was looking at a similar medium-sized combo at a good enough price at Harbor Freight, pretty good swing and length, but that particular item didn't have threading capability. Of course having enough skill to make accurate matching threads at arbitrary size is another issue altogether (grin).
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Q70 38mm, Pan24, Meade 5K 18mm UW, Axiom LX 15mm, Nagler 13T6, Axiom LX 10mm, Expanse 20mm, 9mm, 6mm, BO/TMB 5mm, 2.5mm
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rwiederrich
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Rob, will yours do threading?
I was looking at a similar medium-sized combo at a good enough price at Harbor Freight, pretty good swing and length, but that particular item didn't have threading capability. Of course having enough skill to make accurate matching threads at arbitrary size is another issue altogether (grin).
Actually I never thought about that issue. It does have a pass through of 7/8"..but I am sure you could do it.
There are accessories for that application. Personally I won't be making threaded things this way.
The current HF models don't looks as *hefty* as this model...so I don't know their capability.
As for my uses it is a great machine. For the money.
Rob
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rwiederrich
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Some new images of the RA axis fixed to the mill base.
Here is an over-all view. There is a rag in the top plate.....
I need to build the housing cover for that next.
I'm also working on the drive motor.
Rob
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rwiederrich
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Here is a close-up of the drive assembly.
It is very sooth.....
Now for the motor.
Rob
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rwiederrich
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So I can move the axis manually..I built a slide assembly that disengages. A securing knob on the back...when loosened...lets me slide the worm from the ring gear.
Rob
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rwiederrich
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Did some more work on the drive for my mill pier.
Here is the drive motor mounted.
Rob
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rwiederrich
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Here is a wider view of the top plate cover I welded and primed, and the RA shaft.
Getting ready to weld the fork, and dit it.
Rob
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jcjr
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Lookin good! That's awfully big. Impressive.
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Q70 38mm, Pan24, Meade 5K 18mm UW, Axiom LX 15mm, Nagler 13T6, Axiom LX 10mm, Expanse 20mm, 9mm, 6mm, BO/TMB 5mm, 2.5mm
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rwiederrich
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Lookin good! That's awfully big. Impressive.
Well it is for a 13"-15" Haven't decided..... Newt.
I try not to throw anything away.....So I use what I have.
Thanks for looking in on my project... 
Rob
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PrestonE
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Reged: 04/29/05
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Loc: Houston,Texas
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Ha Rob, Looking really nice. I like the feature of being able to swivel the column around a bit to align to north precicely...
Great us of old iron 
What kind of gears are you using for the drive? Teeth look beefy...
Keep the pictures coming.
Regards,
Preston
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
   
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Ha Rob, Looking really nice. I like the feature of being able to swivel the column around a bit to align to north precicely...
Great us of old iron 
What kind of gears are you using for the drive? Teeth look beefy...
Keep the pictures coming.
Regards,
Preston
The drive gears are some old ones I had off an old mount. the ring gear is 4". I wanted to use larger 7" Beyer's but found these to be adequate for the job. Plus I had them already. No money spent.. 
I'm scrounging up the metal for the fork now.
I have to machine a few nylon washers too, and then get to work on the Newt going on this mount.
Rob
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