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      #2454067 - 06/11/08 03:06 PM

I'm convinced that I would do much more lunar viewing if only it wasn't so difficult to read objects on the maps. I'm using the book with maps by Peter Grecco. It's a great book, but I'm always having to invert what's on the maps from what's in the ep (geez, what if I had to reverse as well as invert!). Seems like all moon maps work differently in this respect. Can anyone recommend a good, simple set of lunar maps that I'll easily be able to read. I'm using a refractor with a 90* diagonal.

Thanks


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Re: moon maps new [Re: Avatar]
      #2454090 - 06/11/08 03:15 PM

I just ordered the S & T map from Amazon - I will let you know my impressions when I get it ...

I really like the Peter Grego book, too, if it's the one I have (The Moon and How to Observe It).

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Re: moon maps new [Re: chexmix]
      #2454313 - 06/11/08 04:53 PM

The main thing I'm concerned about is that the view through my ep will be the same as that in the map. Come to think of it, I might have an old National Geographic map of the moon.
Let me know how you like your S&T.


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Re: moon maps new [Re: Avatar]
      #2454473 - 06/11/08 06:06 PM

I have two S&T moon maps. The larger version offers a more detailed naked-eye orientation with about a thousand features identified. The map on the smaller version is reversed, but not inverted, and thus matches the view through my eyepiece. It is less detailed, with fewer than 300 features identified. Both are folded and laminated. In actual practice, I find myself using each of them -- one to located things, and the other for more information. It's a shame, in this age of digital editing and printing, that they don't produce the large version in a greater variety of orientations.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: ColoHank]
      #2454716 - 06/11/08 07:54 PM

I use VMA.

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Re: moon maps [Re: ColoHank]
      #2455320 - 06/12/08 01:21 AM

In relation to what I see through the ep, I have to invert upside down the maps in the Grecco book. I don't have to reverse side to side though.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #2455322 - 06/12/08 01:23 AM

Scott,

What is VMA?


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Re: moon maps new [Re: Avatar]
      #2455687 - 06/12/08 09:34 AM

I'll jump in here. VMA is the virtual moon atlas, worth downloading. theres a link somewhere in the forum but do a web search. get the expert version if you can, its great and pretty easy to use.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: alser2]
      #2456492 - 06/12/08 04:59 PM

Hi,
Virtual Moon Atlas (VMA) is a freeware just recently celebrating its 6th birthday by announcing version 4.0 for download. The software is made by Christian Legrand and Patrick Chevalley, who have also made the very famous Cartes du Ciel / Sky Charts.

The new release of VMA has very beautiful set of high quality amateur Lunar photos by Wes Higgins and Paolo Lazzarotti. The pics are easily manageable by a VMA integrated database interface.

Also a very good Lunar analysis program is Lunar Terminator Visualization Tool or LTVT by Jim Mosher.

The program is also freeware, and it has an unique and powerful ability to let the user calibrate his or her own photos into the cartographic projection and analyze the pics with regard to shadow lengths and Sun angle. There is also a set of textures and high quality calibrated reference pictures available for analysis.

See also Jim's announcement on LTVT wiki space launching and an example of my learning to use LTVT and sharing the experience. You can also look for Jim's expert analysis for instance in here.

Also a very nice resource in learning about the Moon is Alan Chu's Photographic Moon Book, that Mardi Clark kindly mirrors on the Whitepeak Observatory site.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: Mare Nectaris]
      #2456717 - 06/12/08 07:10 PM

Yep the VMA Pro is what I use now.
I used the VMA Expert for quite a while.
Wonderful program.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: Mare Nectaris]
      #2456736 - 06/12/08 07:26 PM

Thanks folks. Lots of great info. I'll check these out these sources.

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Re: moon maps new [Re: Avatar]
      #2457283 - 06/13/08 02:29 AM

Quote:

I'm convinced that I would do much more lunar viewing if only it wasn't so difficult to read objects on the maps. I'm using the book with maps by Peter Grecco. It's a great book, but I'm always having to invert what's on the maps from what's in the ep (geez, what if I had to reverse as well as invert!). Seems like all moon maps work differently in this respect. Can anyone recommend a good, simple set of lunar maps that I'll easily be able to read. I'm using a refractor with a 90* diagonal.

Thanks




Here in Germany you can buy the "little Rükl", which has additional inverted maps. I'm trying to look for at amazon.com.... nothing.

Try to order via amazon.de:
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_ss_w?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords="kleiner+mondatlas"

The maps itselves are rougher than those of the "big" Rükl, but good for first orientation.

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