Greyhoundman
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Decided I wanted a chair. But went for zero cash outlay. Built from scrap bin collection. I used to run a small woodworking shop several years back. Next will be a small reflector.
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Greyhoundman
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Here is a close shot of the main parts.
The wood is cherry. The seat covering is camera bellows material. And the foam was from a camera shipment. It is based on a modified Harford design.
http://www.harfordastro.org/izar/izar_chair/izar_chair.html
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rnabholz
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Congrats on a fine looking project - love the cherry wood.
After the scope and eyepieces, a chair is my #1 observing accessory.
Well done.
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Trondur
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Beautiful job. Your scraps are definitely more upscale than mine, though.
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Greyhoundman
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Thank you both.
I'm a constant scrounger. I've collected a lot of wood over the years. Most would have been burned if I had not grabbed it. The cherry was free cutoffs from a local sawmill. Watch for my low buck reflector.
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rboe
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Very nicely none Sir.
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Very nicely none Sir.
What Ron said except substitute "done" for "none". LOL!
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rboe
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Dang fingers!
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JohnH
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Very nice. A worthy project for wood you can get from the scrap heap.
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wood!!!! I love woodworks and I love your chair too
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You did a nice job with your scrap cherry! I'd hate to sit in a chair made from scrap pallet wood.
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StarStuff1
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Last Summer my 3 grandsons were hanging around in my hammock. The hammock just fell apart for no particular reason. It could not have been any fault of theirs!
Well, the hammock was 6 years old and starting to wear so...
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StarStuff1
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..so I recycled the wood part of the hammock into an extra observing chair. A little more scrap lumber and aluminum. Did have to buy a couple of 3/4-in dowels. Darn, should have used old broom sticks and made it into a total salvage job.
BTW, the grandsons are banned from using the new hammock my wife got me for Christmas.
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StarStuff1
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Here is an earlier one I made although it is a little bit more worn now. The rope holes in the hammock frame made it a natural to sort of copy the original idea.
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rboe
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Looks pretty sweet to me. 
Does that mean the chair has a built in snooze monster?
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StarStuff1
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Not only a snooze monster but she is also a viscious attack dog as long as it's small birds she is chasing.
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jcjr
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Ya'll got me inspired. Had some spare sticks of pressure-treated pine and a couple of old broomsticks.
Mine doesn't have to fold up to travel to the back yard, and wanted it rigid cause I weigh almost an eighth of a ton. Figured it could also come in handy as a shop stool.
It is adjustable from 11 inches to 34 inches.
Had in mind a 'rustic design', but it turned out looking kinda midieval. Perhaps some minor mods could do double duty as a miniature seige catapult (grin).
The pressure-treated pine has a green color, and perhaps the pressure-treat process exaggerates the grain. I like grain.
Since the PT lumber had a green color, thought it might be a hoot to stain it Colonial Maple, which has a strong reddish cast. Unexpected contrast. Then lots of glossy floor polyurethane finish.


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rboe
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How do you like that round seat? I've been thinking along those lines on my next chair - good to see you went and did it. 
Can you post more details on how the seat locks into the frame? Looks like something worth stealing. 
If you go with a half lap or bridle joint at the top you can avoid the extra piece of wood. I think you could do with a smaller rear foot (strictly as weight savings) too unless you have real soft ground.
You have some very nice ideas going on there. 
But be warned - once you build one chair it's not too long after and you start thinking about an "improved" version. There is no end in sight.
-------------------- Ron
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Fiske
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GrayHound:
Nice job on the chair. I would say you have a well-stocked "scrap bin." I guess you loosely based this on the Denver Observer chair plan? I like the seat position adjustment detail.
I built a Denver chair years ago and it has served me well, though I plan to build a better chair in the near future. One problem I have had with the chair is that the connection between the front foot and the upright beam gets a lot of torque. I bolted mine on, and regularly have to tight then bolts. They are like 3/8-inch, I think. Three of them.
From the pictures it seems like your front foot is connected with four wood screws. Did you glue it, too? I would be interested to know how the joint holds up over time.
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Greyhoundman
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I used a construction glue that stays just a bit pliable after hardening. I've used it before with good results in such situations.
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Fiske; I wonder if moisture going in and out had more to do with the bolts loosening up than the stresses. Finger nail polish or locktite should put and end to that straight away.
The chairs I've built used a mortise and tenon joint for that area - if that is a joint you want to try (I think your skill level is more than up to it).
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Fiske
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GrayHound:
Seems like a good approach!
Ron:
Nope. It is definitely the torque from when I lean one way or another. I figure I need to come up with a stronger joint or use the SouthBeach diet solution...

I'm actually looking at building a different style chair. A lighter one based on BalticBirch plywood. I've seen some pictures of really nice versions of these (which I am going to borrow from liberally. ) You have probably seen the ones I'm referring to. Cat's Eye even offers a kit, I think.
Thanks for the vote of confidence on my fabrication ability. That is predicated, of course, on my ability to clean up my shop enough to actually work in it...
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Mini Borg 60ED, TV-101, AT80Ach, XT-8, C11/CI-700, 22-Inch Dob
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jcjr
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How do you like that round seat? I've been thinking along those lines on my next chair - good to see you went and did it. 
Hi Ron
Have been accustomed to round conventional stools, and this one is about 12" diameter, like a lot of them. I figgered the round shape would 'feel about the same' if one were sitting at any angle thru a 180 degree arc on the stool. Maybe not that big a deal with a telescope seat, but possibly more useful as a general-duty shop seat which it might be good for as well.
Something not planned, but the column suffices not too bad as a 'semi reclining' back except when the seat is adjusted real high.
Wanted the column pretty narrow for the shop-use case, where a wide chair might be too hard to use. Also, I only had two old broomsticks, insufficient to make a wide seat frame (grin).
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If you go with a half lap or bridle joint at the top you can avoid the extra piece of wood. I think you could do with a smaller rear foot (strictly as weight savings) too unless you have real soft ground.
Thanks, will study on that.
New growth southern pine can be surprisingly light-weight, and it can be strong in big pieces. But I don't know enough about 'strength of materials' to skimp on such a relatively weak wood. New-growth pine is prone to split if it gets a mind to. Which is why the seat looks built like a tank. The seat isn't incredibly heavy, but didn't want to go to the bother of building just to have it break.
Initially planned a three-point support with no back foot. But after building it, I adjusted the seat to the top rung and intentionally played the fool leaning dangerously in all directions. Seemed risky not to support it wider in the back. If one made a sufficiently foolish maneuver with no back foot, the seat would be happy to dump the occupant. But a shorter back foot might work just as well as the wide one.
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Can you post more details on how the seat locks into the frame? Looks like something worth stealing. 
I was emulating other folks' removable-seat astro chairs, but hadn't found a good picture of what their locking mechanism looked like. So was copying what I imagined it must look like. A much better shape could probably be thunk up.
So here are details, and apologies if it is too lengthy painful detail. I don't know much about this stuff, so 'its all new to me' and I don't know what is or is not obvious.
Decided that a 24" front foot is as wide as would be convenient to tote out a 36" door. Looked up the height adjustment range of some commercial seats.
Used basic geometry to figure the depth of the chair to make a 24" equilateral triangle. Then solved another simple right-triangle problem to arrive at the length of the column pieces, to monkey-see-monkey-do the adjustment range of a commercial seat.
Cut the column pieces and tacked em together at the correct angle. Drew a line down the middle of the angled column piece. The seat main piece is doubled 2X4's, so laid a 2X4 on the angle column 'horizontal to the base'. Cut two little pieces of broomstick and drew X's thru them. Set the broomstick pieces on the center line on each side of the 2X4 and measured the distance between dowel centers. Then clamped both columns together and drilled all the holes that distance.
After the frame was assembled, I cut the doubled 2X4 'core' for the seat, long enough to have space at the top-back for a 2X2 'stop piece' behind the top dowel, and long enough to extend out the front for 13" to make room for the 12" round seat. I just set a 2X4 in the gap, adjusted it until a 2X2 block would sit behind the top dowel, then measured 13" out from the front for the seat.
Then drew markings of where the seat 'core' would hit the bottom dowel. Cut a staight line with the bandsaw, with a radius on both ends of the cut, so the cut line would end right before the bottom dowel position. Wanted to leave the back at least 2" thick, because perhaps a lot of strain can happen back there after a feller who weighs an eighth of a ton sits on it (grin).
I cut 1X4 pieces angled to sit on both sides of the doubled-2X4 core, so they would bear on the frame and not put all the weight on the top and bottom dowels. Then laminated 2X2 'wings' on both sides of that, and cut it into a circle with a jigsaw. Routed the top edge with a 3/8" roundoff bit.
This is the part which failed due to the polyurethane glue, probably my fault somehow. So the 7 plugs on both sides, cover 3" counter-sunk screws reinforcing the repair joint of TiteBond III. Since the inside core pieces were also glued with polyurethane, that is why there are extra screws also visible on the lower part of the seat. I didn't bother to cover those with plugs. Hopefully the center pieces don't get as much stress and the polyurethane will hold, but no tellin.
Here are pics of the front, side, back of the seat.



Here is mating detail, side and top.


Apologies for such a long-winded message.
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That's a beautiful piece of work. Well, they all are!
I'll definitely have to build one based on these here, but I don't expect mine to look nearly as purty.
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rboe
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I did this one a couple years ago. Similar but pretty different.
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rboe
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You can see the interlocking teeth to lock the seat in height. You're is much easier to build! I'm finding I don't need nearly the adjustable freedom the teeth give me - if you get the sweet spot right in the first place.
My latest gets away from the ladder style and goes with a cross foot print not unlike an office chair - minus the wheels.
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rboe
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Dave; I've been toying with the idea of a plywood based chair. I'd use something similar to the first posted chair to adjust the height (using a wavey pattern verses the half circles) but a foot print instead of the ladder or A frame that is popular. Mainly because I really like not having that rear leg swinging around.
I'd also like to find an old plastic stacking chair and use the plastic shell for the seat. Those are pretty comfortable!
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Fiske
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Ron:
Nice! You built that yourself?? 
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Mini Borg 60ED, TV-101, AT80Ach, XT-8, C11/CI-700, 22-Inch Dob
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Fiske
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Have been accustomed to round conventional stools, and this one is about 12" diameter, like a lot of them.
This would also reduce the torque. I also like the idea of it doing double duty in the shop. "But Honey, this isn't an astronomy project. I need it for the shop so I can build our library bookcases...
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Nikon 8x42 LX / 12x50 SE Binos
Mini Borg 60ED, TV-101, AT80Ach, XT-8, C11/CI-700, 22-Inch Dob
Way too many Nagler eyepieces
http://www.fiskemiles.blogspot.com/
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