John Wunderlin
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Loc: Mineral Point, Wi
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Looks like Google isn't going to work unless someone else can figure this out. Bummer!
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Empire Ranch Observatory
Iowa County Astronomers
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Jerry3672
Vendor - Quantum Astronomy Products
Reged: 01/20/08
Posts: 294
Loc: Lexington NC
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Still just a red X, Is it me?? can anyone see your image?
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knuklhdastnmr
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Reged: 02/24/05
Posts: 3578
Loc: Beerpuddle, Colorado
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I can. It's a pretty nice image of Jupiter. I pasted it in below.
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sang33ta
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/08/08
Posts: 539
Loc: UK
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Also, why do you think the sky is brighter in the summer? AFAIK, there's not much difference if the moon is not up, other than fewer hours to image.
I guess it's more of a problem the further north your latitude? I suppose the night sky will suck in Australia when I get the good stuff so it'll balance out. 
Pasting an image link works good for me too. You can see it and change it. Everyones happy
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Hioptic 152mm f12.5 Maksutov
Celestron Advanced CG5-GT Mount (Mr Noisy!)
Meade 4000 Super Plossl Set
Casio QV-2900UX
Got fed up of waiting for Meade ETX-150 so put this together for £500/$1000
Edited by sang33ta (07/28/08 09:27 AM)
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Richard Scott
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/25/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Tampa FL
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Again, just my two cents worth
I am not a big fan of off site entrants. In order to be competitive I must acquire a hosting service to post my work to? This seems counterproductive to increased precipitation.
I like the idea posted by Jerry3672 of multiple entries with only the last one being used in the polling. I could keep sweeting my offerings until the closing date.
And others could see the processing developments on an image as the entrant tried to improve his or her offering till the end of the month.
And if this multiple submission method were adopted, what again is the gain of off-site posting if my images must comply with the 100k posting requirements to begin with no matter where they reside?
A level playing field is a must if we want a high level of participation. And I think we all do.
Richard
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Orion ED80 APO
CG-5 GEM
JMI NGF-CM Focuser
Orion SSDSI
Meade DSI Pro
an assortment of 1.25 & 2" stuff
all tucked inside the Blue Moon Observatory
http://tinyurl.com/29b9wn
Basically more scope than my abilities warrant
"I know I can never look upon the stars without wondering why the whole world does not become astronomers."
Thomas Wright
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knuklhdastnmr
Pepperbelly
Reged: 02/24/05
Posts: 3578
Loc: Beerpuddle, Colorado
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Again, just my two cents worth
I am not a big fan of off site entrants. In order to be competitive I must acquire a hosting service to post my work to? This seems counterproductive to increased precipitation.
I don't understand this to be the case. Richard, you can post your images just as you always have. You need not acquire a hosting service.
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I like the idea posted by Jerry3672 of multiple entries with only the last one being used in the polling. I could keep sweeting my offerings until the closing date.
And others could see the processing developments on an image as the entrant tried to improve his or her offering till the end of the month.
I'm really resistant to this idea. It's difficult enough when there is one submission per entrant. Multiple submissions leaves me trying to figure out which one they want in the contest. Yes, each post is date stamped. But, I forsee somebody posting a new submission then deciding they really liked the old one better. It also make putting the poll up harder.
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 351
Loc: Mineral Point, Wi
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The DSO target this month was a tough one for me. I was feeling pretty good about my image until I saw Eddy's. Gorgeous!!! 
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Empire Ranch Observatory
Iowa County Astronomers
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Richard Scott
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/25/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Tampa FL
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So be it...
Richard
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11 Celestron XLT SCT
Orion ED80 APO
CG-5 GEM
JMI NGF-CM Focuser
Orion SSDSI
Meade DSI Pro
an assortment of 1.25 & 2" stuff
all tucked inside the Blue Moon Observatory
http://tinyurl.com/29b9wn
Basically more scope than my abilities warrant
"I know I can never look upon the stars without wondering why the whole world does not become astronomers."
Thomas Wright
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Jerry3672
Vendor - Quantum Astronomy Products
Reged: 01/20/08
Posts: 294
Loc: Lexington NC
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Again, just my two cents worth
I am not a big fan of off site entrants. In order to be competitive I must acquire a hosting service to post my work to? This seems counterproductive to increased precipitation.
I don't understand this to be the case. Richard, you can post your images just as you always have. You need not acquire a hosting service.
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I like the idea posted by Jerry3672 of multiple entries with only the last one being used in the polling. I could keep sweeting my offerings until the closing date.
And others could see the processing developments on an image as the entrant tried to improve his or her offering till the end of the month.
I'm really resistant to this idea. It's difficult enough when there is one submission per entrant. Multiple submissions leaves me trying to figure out which one they want in the contest. Yes, each post is date stamped. But, I forsee somebody posting a new submission then deciding they really liked the old one better. It also make putting the poll up harder.
I don't want to cause any extra work for the mods.
So new idea: As soon as someone has an image to post, then just start a regular thread that others can comment on. Then just add later images as you get better, then on the last day of the month post to the contest thread. 
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Richard Scott
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/25/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Tampa FL
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First off let me say very clearly, THANK YOU CLOUDY NIGHTS! and all of her overworked and under appreciated mods!
I for one am very grateful for this site and the people who make it work day in and day out. All responsible deserve a big hand from all of us.
Jerry makes another interesting point
As soon as someone has an image to post, then just start a regular thread that others can comment on. Then just add later images as you get better, then on the last day of the month post to the contest thread.
That might work, I see the initial challenge postings getting scattered all over the forum, based on posting dates etc. But it might be a way to solve this problem.
It is a shame that the self-editing function here on Cloudy Nights has a shut off of about a week. If one could update/edit their offering/postings through the end of the month, or for 30 days from their initial post, this problem would just dry up and blow away.
Richard
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11 Celestron XLT SCT
Orion ED80 APO
CG-5 GEM
JMI NGF-CM Focuser
Orion SSDSI
Meade DSI Pro
an assortment of 1.25 & 2" stuff
all tucked inside the Blue Moon Observatory
http://tinyurl.com/29b9wn
Basically more scope than my abilities warrant
"I know I can never look upon the stars without wondering why the whole world does not become astronomers."
Thomas Wright
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 351
Loc: Mineral Point, Wi
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First off let me say very clearly, THANK YOU CLOUDY NIGHTS! and all of her overworked and under appreciated mods!
Here, here!
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As soon as someone has an image to post, then just start a regular thread that others can comment on. Then just add later images as you get better, then on the last day of the month post to the contest thread.
That might work, I see the initial challenge postings getting scattered all over the forum
Yes, they may get scattered. If people don't have access to an offsite storage area, I think this is probably the best option.
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It is a shame that the self-editing function here on Cloudy Nights has a shut off of about a week.
I've been doing some tests- it's less than a week- I think it's 3 days. I should know for sure tomorrow.
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If one could update/edit their offering/postings through the end of the month, or for 30 days from their initial post, this problem would just dry up and blow away.
I checked with Tom T on this- as was previously suggested, there isn't a way to do this on a forum by forum basis- it's site wide and he doesn't want to make it that long, so we're stuck.
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Empire Ranch Observatory
Iowa County Astronomers
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Jerry3672
Vendor - Quantum Astronomy Products
Reged: 01/20/08
Posts: 294
Loc: Lexington NC
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By my testing the edit limit is three days.
Another Here!Here! to the Mods,
Thanks! we are glad you are here.
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Eddy
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 09/30/04
Posts: 1202
Loc: Aix-en-Provence, France
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Hi all,
I don't know exactly what to say, but I would like to thank everybody for the votes they gave me in the July "challenge".
Images are improving each month and everybody did a good job.
Personally, I found that Gobart did very well with his black and white version of the Iris.
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Cheers,
Eddy
C8 XLT, W.O. ZS80-FD 10th anniv. ed. with MoonLite D/S focuser, Tak TSA102N
Tak EM-200 Temma II, Vixen PortaMount
SXV-H9, SXV guider
SBIG CFW-10 SA filter wheel, Astromik Type2 LRGB and Astronomik 6nm H-α, 13nm SII, 13nm OIII
Taurus Mini Tracker OAG
http://www.astrophotogallery.org/showgallery.php?cat=580
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sang33ta
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/08/08
Posts: 539
Loc: UK
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I was voting for zAmbonii I thought he did the best images with the least amount of budget. I personally don't think a beginner starts with a £1500/$3000 SBig, Starlight Express et al.
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Hioptic 152mm f12.5 Maksutov
Celestron Advanced CG5-GT Mount (Mr Noisy!)
Meade 4000 Super Plossl Set
Casio QV-2900UX
Got fed up of waiting for Meade ETX-150 so put this together for £500/$1000
Edited by sang33ta (08/09/08 02:54 PM)
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Eddy
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Loc: Aix-en-Provence, France
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I personally don't think a beginner starts with a £1500/$3000 SBig, Starlight Express et al.
Maybe you are right.
What do the moderators think about this? Would it be worth putting some kind of limit on the challenge and is this feasible?
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Cheers,
Eddy
C8 XLT, W.O. ZS80-FD 10th anniv. ed. with MoonLite D/S focuser, Tak TSA102N
Tak EM-200 Temma II, Vixen PortaMount
SXV-H9, SXV guider
SBIG CFW-10 SA filter wheel, Astromik Type2 LRGB and Astronomik 6nm H-α, 13nm SII, 13nm OIII
Taurus Mini Tracker OAG
http://www.astrophotogallery.org/showgallery.php?cat=580
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Nate B.
sage
Reged: 03/08/07
Posts: 217
Loc: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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I think this is a good conversation to have because I went through a thought process of whether or not I was going to post my North American Neb for the DSO challenge this month. It's been less than 2 years since I looked through my first telescope and less than that even since I started imaging. So I still consider myself a beginner in that respect. My equipment isn't what I'd consider beginner though and was why I hesitated to enter this month.... I decided to enter the contest though almost entirely on the fact that another entry used an AP mount, Tak FSQ, and FLI CCD.
I guess we need to decide how to balance equipment and experience to keep it fair for the real beginner with less than a year experience who's imaging with a budget ccd.
So what do you guys think?
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Meade LXD55 SN10 OTA
Orion 80ED 80mm f/7.5 APO
Celestron C6 XLT
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 351
Loc: Mineral Point, Wi
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Personally, I enjoy the range of images that are posted in this forum and think we should encourage participation rather than discourage it. If we could open a separate competition for 'low cost imaging', I'd be all for it but I don't think we should further limit the existing competition.
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John Wunderlin
Vendor - Spike-a Focusing Mask
Empire Ranch Observatory
Iowa County Astronomers
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fishmagnet
sage
Reged: 12/11/07
Posts: 268
Loc: Satellite Beach Fla
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I own some higher end astro-gear (including a SBIG ST-10E) but this does not make me a great imager. I have been imaging less than one year and have won the bright challenge the last two months using the cheapest CCD you can buy. After I learn my SBIG and autoguiding my imaging will take a quantum leap forward, this is all part of the learning curve. More power and congratulations to Eddy for a job well done!
*****John
Edited by fishmagnet (08/10/08 01:14 PM)
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Jerry3672
Vendor - Quantum Astronomy Products
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Posts: 294
Loc: Lexington NC
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Dido to Fishmagnet.
We as a group should promote a high range of astro equipment. I too enjoy the range of images.
Good point John
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Eddy
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Reged: 09/30/04
Posts: 1202
Loc: Aix-en-Provence, France
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Thanks for the comments on my image.
This conversation is great.
I guess it is difficult to draw a line on this. A guy who has a RCOS with a STL11000 probably knows what he is doing and has a lot of experience. These persons won't "bother" to join this challenge (I guess and I hope  )
Some of us will have more experience than others and some will produce great images with a "lower end" CCD than others with a more expensive SBIG or SX camera. I, personally, bought mine third hand, but invested more money in a good refractor and mount. But this doesn't mean I am an expert. Hell, I have my camera a bit more than a year now and my TSA since New Year.
I agree that good hardware makes life easier - better tracking, color free, etc... - but this doesn't make me a better photographer. Others with cheaper mounts have maybe better results than I have due to their experience.
After all, the main aim - I think - is having fun, showing the results to the others and learning from the critique (positive or negative), isn't it? 
Cheers,
Eddy
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Cheers,
Eddy
C8 XLT, W.O. ZS80-FD 10th anniv. ed. with MoonLite D/S focuser, Tak TSA102N
Tak EM-200 Temma II, Vixen PortaMount
SXV-H9, SXV guider
SBIG CFW-10 SA filter wheel, Astromik Type2 LRGB and Astronomik 6nm H-α, 13nm SII, 13nm OIII
Taurus Mini Tracker OAG
http://www.astrophotogallery.org/showgallery.php?cat=580
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