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markseibold
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Standing in the Photosphere of the Sun
      #2496609 - 07/02/08 11:26 PM

To all

20 X 24" Pastel somewhat completed today . . .

This could be a work in progress as I am thinking about it... It was inspired after I observed a very three-dimensional filament-prominence near the southwest edge.

I would like some feedback from those who might offer anything . . . what would it really look like if we could get this close?

I look forward to questions- comments- criticsm . . .

thanks,
Mark



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SolidAhmed
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Re: Standing in the Photosphere of the Sun new [Re: markseibold]
      #2497525 - 07/03/08 01:31 PM

This is so beautiful. I wish I can make detailed surface like yours. I am not sure how can I add up or help with an advice, but maybe if you played with the scale of the surface a little bit. I mean like you make the holes or spots in the forground to be a bit bigger than the one on the background I mean you did it already but more exaggerated ( in your own words, closer), to just give it more sence of scale. But honestly, it is just fine the way it is. Maybe you want to try what I told you in another painting.

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Canon Digital Rebel XTi
F-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Lens
Vixen 10x50

www.InterstellarArt.com

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished.




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markseibold
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Re: Standing in the Photosphere of the Sun new [Re: SolidAhmed]
      #2497820 - 07/03/08 04:10 PM


Hi Ahmad

Yes; thank you for the advice. Details? I guess I have never written a formal tutorial as Erika suggested this awhile back. I would need a good editor as the left hander that I am like Da Vinci, I would never finish a work as they say he never really did. It's that left handed biology thing you know. I will offer this for now in short: What I do in large areas of the surface is to drag the chalk stick on its side (very lightly) as this causes what might be known as "scumbling" in oil painting. It leaves a random texture that you can then go over and fill in with light touched in lines with the sharp end of the stick, that is to say, sketching in the further details. So in a sense, I am cheating in the large to be filled in areas by just dragging around allot. Does this description help? I welcome others to share in their details as to how these are achieved. As artists, we are mostly self taught, self experimentation with much in trial and error. After 50 years of life I can asure you that I have made my quota of errors! As you may know, this means hours of making many trial and error mistakes. I tell new younger artist to experiment and do not fear a mistake, as something is sure to be learned. As they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

And I must reiterate that this current work is not really done. As many artworks that we execute as artists do not turn out as originally conceived, I feel that I want to finish this work. Are we perfectionists as artists? I spoke a little about that on NPR's Talk o the Nation a couple weeks ago- Hear it in their archives for the date:

June 12th 2008 Productive Procrastination - Mark speaks as opening caller as a Procrastinating Artist before the guest and he sets the tone for the discussion!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91432804

As for the near foreground surface, it is not to be sunspots but rather the granulation appearance that we see in the most close-up photographs that are available. I am using my imagination a little here, of course. I wanted to make the so-called surface appear as translucent, so I think I need to add more light to it and fill in all the dark that is still showing in-between the granulation images. I want to render an image of translucent cauldrons as if we could see down through thousands of miles of a amorphous or ethereal surface, which is what we are told that the solar photosphere is- The sun really has no surface as we think of a surface on a planet such as the earth.

My works in the past have always been from direct observation and then reworked a little later to add the ambience of say “the hands”. However, I always try to keep the solar surface (photosphere, prominences and sunspots) to appear as near real as possible as they were observed through my h-alpha telescope.)
Please refer to my gallery and feel free to see this site >
www.myspace.com/marksolarprophet

My Gallery >
http://www.cloudynights.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=37924&cat=500

I checked your site to see the one intro image. Beautiful! I would surmise that it is an airbrushed technique and not Photoshop? Can you tell us about it? Will you display it here in the Astro Art Forum?

Thanks again,
Mark




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SolidAhmed
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Re: Standing in the Photosphere of the Sun new [Re: markseibold]
      #2498087 - 07/03/08 06:58 PM

Mark,

Thanks a lot for tips and advice. Thank you for taking the time to explain the method you used. It's such a relieve to hear from you about how artist most of the time they never finish their work. That gave me a boost for my confidence. Actually you encouraged me to submit a work right after I finish writing this post.

Thank you for visiting my web site. As you can see I am Procrastinating opening it because I have some difficulty to learn how to set up one. I am aiming in opening it before Christmas if things went well.

I have another painting I posted in this forums long time ago, about a year ago. I will try to bump it up so it will be easier for you to find.

amazing gallery you have. Another nice thing is the music you're playing in your site. I've been searching for it for sometime. Your gallery is splendid, in both link you gave me. I liked the painting and the pictures you have in your myspace gallery. I couldn't comment unless if we add each other as friends there. I have a gallery of my early work, but it's not as good as what I want to be.

Thanks again and you are welcome. We will have good times in this forum.

-Ahmed

PS: The image you are using for your avatar is beautiful and one of my fav.

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Celestron C6-S GT Schmidt-Cassegrain w/XLT
Canon Digital Rebel XTi
F-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Lens
Vixen 10x50

www.InterstellarArt.com

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished.




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