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NightSkyGuy
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editorial changes at S&T new
      #2474208 - 06/21/08 01:23 PM

folks...

you've probably heard that Rick Fienberg has left as S&T's Editor in Chief and that Bob Naeye is taking the editorial reins. Bob is a great guy and will lead the magazine ably. he worked with us for a couple years before taking a job at NASA-Goddard, and he was an editorial intern at S&T in 1991. so he knows S&T and its team well.

New Track Media used this transition as an opportunity to restructure our editorial operation, and my position as Executive Editor was eliminated. June 6th was my last day as a full-time staffer. (just to be clear, my departure wasn't a consequence either of Rick's leaving or of Bob's hiring.)

but don't fret: I'll continue to be a part of the S&T mix, as Senior Contributing Editor. so you'll still see my contributions in S&T's print and online offerings for the foreseeable future. it's a long-term arrangement that will occupy me half time. and, for now, I'll continue to be involved in all the creative roles you're used to seeing me in: writing about planetary science, space exploration, light pollution, and the amateur-astronomy community at large.

what I'll do with the other half is TBD. I plan to become even more involved in the fight against light pollution, both through the International Dark-Sky Association and as an individual... I'll do more freelance writing... and my wife reminds me that there's no shortage of projects around the house!

this change presents me with both challenges and opportunities. I've been on the S&T staff for 34 years, so this transition to self-employment will be a completely new experience. I'll say this much: I sure won't miss the workday commute or getting up at 5:30 to beat the traffic!

in any case, you'll still be able to contact me here or through my existing S&T email address (kbeatty@skyandtelescope.com).


clear skies,
Kelly


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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2474282 - 06/21/08 01:53 PM

Welcome to CN, Kelly.

Sorry to hear of the changes you're experiencing but as a recently retired person I've to say I've found plenty of things with which to occupy my time...to the point that I use a daily list of priority items needing my "attention". Not sure how I ever got anything done while I was fully employed. Hopefully your experience will be similar.

As with any major life change, the challenge is not in the circumstance but our response to it. It's not the end of the story, it's the beginning of a new chapter.

I've always enjoyed your podcast episodes. I hope they will continue.

CS2U2!

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: o1d_dude]
      #2475093 - 06/21/08 10:39 PM

Position elimination and a transition to self-employment doesn't sound like any version of a planned retirement i have ever heard of (especially after 34 years of loyal & award winning service). What it sounds like is yet another salary transferred to the New Track Media conglomerate's profit column.

Masthead absences in editorial/art dept. since Feb 2006 when New Track Media LLC took over:
President/publisher position: gone
Executive editor position: gone
Managing editor position: gone
Two of five Senior editor positions: gone
Three of five associate editor positions: gone
One of two assistant editor positions: gone
copy editor position: gone
photo editor position: gone
three of five positions in art & design, gone
One of three contributing photographer positions: gone

But, ya know... "Nothing personal; it's just business."

and...
Binding: cheapened
Paper: cheapened
Size: shrunk
Spin off magazine, Night Sky: terminated
O'Meara: gone

But in the *plus* column we have:

um....



anyone?

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2475153 - 06/21/08 11:19 PM

Kelly--

The fight against light pollution may become your most noble project--and the most challenging.

Thank you for all of your contributions over the past four decades.

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NightSkyGuy
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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: photonovore]
      #2475541 - 06/22/08 08:05 AM

Mardi...

> But in the *plus* column we have:
> um....

I would list the continued existence of S&T.

it's been a rough few years for publications, and we at S&T are not immune. many of the belt-tightening changes you note would have happened even without the magazine's sale.

clear skies,
Kelly


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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2475977 - 06/22/08 12:45 PM

Kelly, thanks for the heads-up. Maybe as part of your new-found free time , you'll also get a chance to hang out here on CN just a bit. I know your experience and knowledge would be very welcome to all of our members...and perhaps you might find our Light Pollution forum a good place to give and get ideas in your fight against that pesky problem.

In any event, best of luck to you as you go through this transition and consider all the exciting opportunities ahead of you!

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2477507 - 06/23/08 09:10 AM

Quote:

Mardi...

> But in the *plus* column we have:
> um....

I would list the continued existence of S&T.

it's been a rough few years for publications, and we at S&T are not immune. many of the belt-tightening changes you note would have happened even without the magazine's sale.

clear skies,
Kelly



And many probably wouldn't have. I doubt that William Sheehan and Roger Sinnott (and now you, Kelly) would have been cut if the health of the magazine were a major concern. (As I understand things, Sheehan wasn't even notified - just dropped from the masthead!) I have the distinct impression that we are seeing a product squeezed for the last dollar before being discarded.
If the new management of S&T continues to divest itself of everything that made it what it was, its continued existence is very much in doubt. S&T used to be like a bunch of observing buddies, and spoke directly to the amateur. To me! Now, the faceless corporation is sacking everyone I "knew", and the quality of the magazine has been nosediving in every area. S&T now has what, about 50% of the circulation that Astronomy magazine has? How did that happen?? S&T used to be the undisputed champ of American astronomy magazines. Now it's become a shadow of itself. I never thought I'd be looking for a substitute, but I am now.

In fairness: I suspect the climate at S&T has become one of fear, and I certainly can't blame the remaining staff if the work has suffered. But still, the quality goes down while the price stays up. Not a combination that evokes optimism or continued loyalty.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2477865 - 06/23/08 12:32 PM

Quote:

Mardi...

> But in the *plus* column we have:
> um....

I would list the continued existence of S&T.




Yup. Can't maintain the "quality" of a publication that has ceased to exist.

As for all the rest, if you're cool with this, 'nuff said.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: desertstars]
      #2478148 - 06/23/08 02:39 PM

Well, eliminating the exorbitant salary of Mr. Beatty will surely go a long way toward saving/improving the publication, won't it Kelly.    

In all seriousness though, I think the light pollution fight could do with a lot more pictoral examples of bad lighting vs. good lighting. Sadly, there aren't many places (yet) to get a good "before-after" set for direct comparison, but please do keep this in mind as you proceed. I think anyone presented with a good many examples of bad, glaring light, replaced with well shielded, or indirect lighting, would immediately see the value.

Soldier on, Mr Beatty.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #2478247 - 06/23/08 03:27 PM

Quote:

In fairness: I suspect the climate at S&T has become one of fear, and I certainly can't blame the remaining staff if the work has suffered.




I hope this is not the case. I have been through this process (in a large media company which I will not name) and it is not fun. I remember how we all used to dread Fridays and wonder where the ax was going to fall next. It was toxic.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: chexmix]
      #2478823 - 06/23/08 08:42 PM

I had the chance to compare the June issues of both magazines (S&T through the mail, a checked-out cope of Astronomy from the library) and have to say that for me, S&T was still the clear winner. O'Meara was a big loss, but Levy, Seronik, French and others do an excellent job. I won't be jumping ship any time soon...

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Scott Regener]
      #2478961 - 06/23/08 09:58 PM

As someone who has issues of S&T from every decade back to the 50's, I wish for the publication to be successful and available far into the future. I've had my little quibbles with its evolution over time, but it remains a wonderful resource and a publication of great beauty.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #2479914 - 06/24/08 11:31 AM

Just want to say thanks for "the new solar system" which I've been reading lately, and your many other past efforts. Hope to see your contributions regularly in S&T and at CN.

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Jay_Bird]
      #2487490 - 06/28/08 04:35 AM

Welcome to CN!

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #2487759 - 06/28/08 10:42 AM

Quote:

S&T used to be like a bunch of observing buddies, and spoke directly to the amateur. To me!




This may be an inevitable progression, enthusiasts to success to big money to uninspired corporate profit center.

If you want a new career challenge.. find a format that satisfies the observers and enthusiasts of today. From many threads at CN there is an unserved demand in this community. How to do it..

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: Jay_Bird]
      #2491888 - 06/30/08 03:59 PM

Quote:

Just want to say thanks for "the new solar system" which I've been reading lately, and your many other past efforts. Hope to see your contributions regularly in S&T and at CN.




_The New Solar System_ has long had a place of honor on my shelves, and I hope to see a new ed. some sunny day!

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Re: editorial changes at S&T new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #2497168 - 07/03/08 10:19 AM

Kelly,

Good luck in your new endeavors!

I happen to know Bob Naeye, who is a lifetime member of ASH, and have heard him speak a number of times both at ASH meetings and star parties. The magazine is in good hands.

Dave Mitsky

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Re: editorial changes at S&T [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #2498269 - 07/03/08 09:05 PM

I stopped at Borders today to check out the latest Sky & Telescope, since I haven't looked at one in a few months... wow! it was THIN (both content and paper). I almost wept when I thought of all those great intelligent columns and articles of the old Sky & Telescope, written by brilliant astronomers, both professional and amateur. I have an S&T from 2000 on my desk right now (been planning a double star run). Over 150 pages! And the articles didn't treat me like I was a moron. If anything, those older issues made you "stretch" to be a better observer and amateur astronomer. This latest issue took me 15 minutes to look through and other than the short article about building your own break-down 'scope, there just wasn't much meat at all, especially compared to what we used to get. So sad...

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