Josh U
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Hi All,
I caught NGC 6207, the little neighbor to M13, for the first time a few nights ago. Wow, very cool! If you haven't seen it, it's right in the neighborhood of that perennial summer favorite, M13. From suburban skies right outside of Washington, DC, the (listed) 12.1 magnitude galaxy was faintly visible through my ten inch dob and 12mm T4 Nagler as a smudge among the stars. I'm sure it can be glimpsed in smaller scopes, too. Skyhound.com says it's no problem for a six inch under dark skies.
I can't wait for the Almost Heaven Star Party in West Virginia next month, so I can check out this little guy under dark skies.
Next time you're parked on M13, and not sure where to go, check out NGC 6207. It's neat.
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GeorgeNC
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I've captured that galaxy on some images I've done of M-13, but have never seen it visually. Good work.
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Achernar
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If the skies are dark and clear, NGC-6207 does easily show up through my 6-inch. Under bad skies it won't show up at all in small telescopes. However, it's just a little blob through that telescope but through my 10-inch it starts looking interesting through medium or high power eyepieces.
Taras
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Mr Q
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When I lived back east (MA), with 5.5 LVM, I saw this EG several times in a 10" newt as a small faint smudge of haze. Every time I look at M13, I always try 6702 just for the fun of it. Mr Q
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Never
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@ 11.4 magnitude (v) the galaxy is fairly easy to spot with at least a 4" telescope under dark skies and when close to south.
/Jake
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John Kocijanski
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Good for you. I caught the other night in my C8.
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Have you caught the much fainter IC4617 galaxy that is closer to M13, it is considerably more difficult and at magnitude 16v and a scant 1.2 by 0.4 arcminutes, at least a 25" is needed to detect it running at high power, under very dark skies, through a 36" it is still very faint but can be held with direct vision 50% of the time...clear skies 
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Here is Iiro's sketch of IC 4617 with a 16" telescope:
/Jake
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Jacques
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@ 11.4 magnitude (v) the galaxy is fairly easy to spot with at least a 4" telescope under dark skies and when close to south.
/Jake
True. In my mag 5+ backyard ngc 6207 is pretty much always visible in the 4" refractor (best seen at 90x) when visiting M13 even now during astronomical twilight.
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Josh U
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Man, since IC 4617 is right in the neighborhood...I'm gonna try just staring at that part of space under dark Almost Heaven Star Party skies just for the heck of it. Or maybe try to hijack one of those BIG dobs out there!
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Dave Mitsky
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Have you caught the much fainter IC4617 galaxy that is closer to M13, it is considerably more difficult and at magnitude 16v and a scant 1.2 by 0.4 arcminutes, at least a 25" is needed to detect it running at high power, under very dark skies, through a 36" it is still very faint but can be held with direct vision 50% of the time...clear skies
IC 4617 wasn't all that easy through a 30" at Cherry Springs State Park some years ago.
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sgottlieb
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Quote:
Have you caught the much fainter IC4617 galaxy that is closer to M13, it is considerably more difficult and at magnitude 16v and a scant 1.2 by 0.4 arcminutes, at least a 25" is needed to detect it running at high power, under very dark skies, through a 36" it is still very faint but can be held with direct vision 50% of the time...clear skies
I've taken notes on this object a half dozen times with an 18", so it's definitely visible in a smaller aperture than 25". Still, it does require knowing the location (which is easy as its just off a star that's part of a distinctive quadrilateral) and moderately high mag as it's pretty tiny. Anyways, here's my last notes --
18" (7/23/06): viewed at both 225x and 323x and appeared as an extremely faint elongated glow just west of a mag 14-14.5 star at the SW vertex of a small trapezoidal asterism of mag 14 stars. The galaxy required averted vision and was not held continuously but was visible as an elongated glow 2.5:1 or 3:1 SSW-NNE, ~0.3'x0.1', with a very low even surface brightness.
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timokarhula
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Last summer, I could see NGC6207 faintly with 25x100 binoculars. The galaxy IC4617 have I viewed with my old 17.5-inch scope.
/Timo Karhula
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Jeff Morgan
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I have seen it (IC 4617) in my 12.5" f/6. I'm not a really galaxy hound, but it was not that hard - perhaps one could pick it up in a 10". I commented on this in another thread on June 7th.
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Starman1
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NGC6207 and IC4617 were definitely visible from my high altitude site in an 8" SCT. I've seen 6207 in a 4" SCT, but I've never seen I.4617 in a smaller scope than 8".
My notes from the 8":
4207 notes:
in field w/M13,sml,oval,mod.brite,sml core,diffuse outer ,slightly elong, stellar nucleus,like miniature M31
I.4617 notes:
v.sml, v.faint, oval, briter in ctr., near outskirts of M13, found but barely seen as small smudge.
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