nytecam
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It's awhile since I've looked at this remote globular in Del but last night I had it in the scope as a faint fuzzy and wondered what other observers make of it - can it be resolved into stars and with what aperture 
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stevecoe
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I have only resolved it in the largest personal scope I have ever owned: 18" f/6 at 210X, I saw 3 stars superimposed on the surface of NGC 7006. One was held steady, the other two appeared and disappeared with the seeing. This was on a night I rated 8/10 for transparency and 7/10 for seeing.
So, it takes the combination of a good night and a pretty good sized scope to resolve even a few stars in this globular. I tried it twice in my 13 inch and never got a star to appear.
Have fun;
Steve Coe
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MessierScott
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Back in September 2004 at the ICStars Star Party with the 20-inch on a better-than-average seeing night at 209x:
"A very tiny, little cluster. Very unresolved, but overall quite bright. A fairly heavily concentrated core area that extends quite a ways out into the cluster before breaking apart rapidly to the edges. Core is so dense it gives a mottled appearance. A few stars are resolved as individuals at the very edges of the cluster. The small faint round galaxy PGC65893 lies on the very NW edge of the field of view (very slight brightening at the core)."
Down to 6 Milky Way globulars yet to view from the Kansas City location (hopefully less after this coming weekend)!
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"A very tiny, little cluster. Very unresolved, but overall quite bright. A fairly heavily concentrated core area that extends quite a ways out into the cluster before breaking apart rapidly to the edges. Core is so dense it gives a mottled appearance. A few stars are resolved as individuals at the very edges of the cluster.
Observing with a 25" in a red zone with poorer seeing conditions the out lying stars give a pentagonal appearance to the globular. I spent several hours watching it one night in hopes of obtaining a better view. Now that I am in a green zone I should give it another look. Now I just have to wait for good seeing conditions.
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Ted
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Mr Q
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The best views of it in my 10" newt showed only a hint of mottled texture on a very good seeing night, with averted vision. Mr Q
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RRaubach
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I have observed n7006 in several scopes, the largest being the Discovery 12.5 ", and not a hint of resolution. In smaller scopes, it is only minimally "globular-looking". I first identified it as a globular in my now dearly departed TMB 175 using a Televue Panoptic 27. FWIW, Steve O'Meara has reported resolution in a 31" reflector.
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sgottlieb
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The brightest stars of NGC 7006 are roughly V = 15.6, but to resolve (beyond a few stars in the halo) in my 18" requires very good seeing. Here's my last observation...
This small globular was viewed at 435x and 565x and it appeared very mottled and lively in excellent seeing. Two or three very faint stars were visible pretty steadily and a number of extremely faint mag 16 stars appeared to sharpen up and momentarily sparkle, particularly in the 1.5' to 2' halo. Perhaps a dozen stars total sparkled or popped in and out of view.
BTW, there's an interacting galaxy, UGC 11672 just 43' east. It's also a nice challenge to try and resolve the components!
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MessierScott
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BTW, there's an interacting galaxy, UGC 11672 just 43' east. It's also a nice challenge to try and resolve the components!
Cool! I'll have to check that one out this weekend. I seen the PGC galaxy to the immediate NW but missed that one.
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Achernar
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I've looked at it in telescopes as large as a 17.5-inch Dob, and it still appeared as a fuzzy blob. The stars are incredibly faint due to NGC-7006's distance of some 185,000 light years from us and 210,000 light years from the galactic center. To resolve this cluster requires very dark skies and probably a 20-inch or bigger telescope unless you have very good vision.
Taras
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sgottlieb
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To resolve this cluster requires very dark skies and probably a 20-inch or bigger telescope unless you have very good vision.
I'd emphasize good seeing and high power (500x or greater) as well.
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Achernar
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For most folks, good seeing is hard to come by. Sometimes though I see nights steady enough to push my 10-inch that far without the image mushing out.
Taras
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Starman1
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from my 8":
Sml,faint,no res.,somewhat condensed core,slightly oval,
from my 12.5":
small,mod.faint,smattering of v.faint stars across ghostly core.Appears slightly flattened with direct vision, but round with averted. A little smaller than N2419 in LYN, but similar resolution/lack therof.
I haven't looked through a larger scope at this object, but I guess I must have looked on a very transparent night to have seen any stars at all.
Don
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nytecam
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Thanks everyone for their excellent reports - it seems this GC is quite a challege to resolve much like 2419 in Lynx - keep up the good works 
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nytecam
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as a follow-up to my recent visual ob of 7006 I took a pic last night on CN thread here Megastar quotes [in vis mags] gross 10.6; brightest stars 15.6; ave [HB] 18.8. The two stars immediately below the GC at m[v]13.7 
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HaleBopper
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I caught a couple of glimpses of NGC 7006 last Aug from my light polluted backyard with an 8" SCT. I used a 21 mm Orion Stratus.
It was a very faint, ghostly round, and greyish object. Not very exciting to look at, but you need to have an appreciation of what you're looking at. I was quite happy to have been able to catch it! Needless to say, I was unable to resolve any of the stars in NGC 7006, (as you would expect from an 8" scope in LP skies).
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David Knisely
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I observed NGC 7006 last night from my driveway (ZLM 5.6 or so) in my NexStar 9.25 inch SCT. I saw no firm hints of any resolution, although there were quite a few stars near it and maybe one or two close to the edges. It is a nice little faint "puff" with some central concentration, and was fairly easy to see but not much in the resolution end. This was right after I hit the *very* nice globular NGC 6712, so I might have been just a bit "jaded" by the previous object. NGC 6712 was a pleasant surprise after hitting a number of fainter globulars that night, although for a globular, it is a little weird (odd shape and distribution of stars). Clear skies to you.
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nytecam
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I observed NGC 7006 last night from my driveway (ZLM 5.6 or so) in my NexStar 9.25 inch SCT.....
Thanks David for your observation - did you observe GC NGC 6934 in Del Sp 7006? I've posted my pic here and seemed to notice the central condensation split in two vertically as if partically obscured - have you noticed this
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David Knisely
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I observed NGC 7006 last night from my driveway (ZLM 5.6 or so) in my NexStar 9.25 inch SCT.....
Thanks David for your observation - did you observe GC NGC 6934 in Del Sp 7006? I've posted my pic here and seemed to notice the central condensation split in two vertically as if partically obscured - have you noticed this
I haven't observed this one in a while, but in my old Herschel 400 log, at 220x in my old 8 inch f/7 Newtonian, I describe it as "clumpy with hints of resolution". I may have to go back and see what the NexStar shows. Clear skies to you.
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gripweed44
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I observed it last summer from Oregon Star party
Real small, bright core - diffuse edges
It was a ghost of a object. But in The sky its the only thing around. I believe its one of the furthest Globs from here.
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John
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