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Mark Jenkins
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2515641 - 07/12/08 09:46 PM

What a fantastic job and project!

I love domes.

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Mark Jenkins]
      #2515707 - 07/12/08 10:29 PM

What was amazing was that, despite all the parts (a tribute to Ash's design), they all fit (pretty well - although Scott had "fun" on final alignment of the last gores.) A small "glitch" in the shutter motor's electrical stops was easy to correct, again, thanks to the Ash's straightforward engineering.

A nice, timeless design, and I'm happy to see it back in service, especially at The Horstman Cluster!

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2515869 - 07/13/08 12:52 AM

Fantastic! What the height of the wood structure, and could you talk about the wood rings?

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William

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Edited by Wmacky (07/13/08 12:57 AM)


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Tom Clark
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Wmacky]
      #2516098 - 07/13/08 08:44 AM

Wood rings are just plywood, band sawn and laminated. This slide show shows the procedure. web page

Edited by Tom Clark (07/13/08 08:46 AM)


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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2516250 - 07/13/08 10:53 AM

Scott,

The 178 looks really happy in its new home! Great job on the observatory.

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2516257 - 07/13/08 10:58 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

Here's a photo of the 40-year-old ASH (Astronomical Society of Harrisburg) Ash Dome.

Dave Mitsky


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Scott Horstman
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Wmacky]
      #2516306 - 07/13/08 11:27 AM

Quote:

Fantastic! What the height of the wood structure, and could you talk about the wood rings?




The wall height is 5'. Add the height of the rotation rings and the bottom of the shutter is about 6'. With the pier height of 44" I get down to about 15 degrees off the horizon, which is about all I have here at best anyhow. We went with 2x6 at 12" centers. The 12" centers help greatly in keeping the siding at a nice radius. 16" centers would tend to give you flat spots.

I would recommend Tom's approach to cutting the semi circles.
The way I did it was to remove the pier and draw an arch on the plywood. I put a nail in the center of the pier and simply drew a circle by hooking the tape on the nail and held the pencil on the tape measure at 10'6". I made a pattern then cut out several arches (enough to do 3 laminations for the top and a single on the bottom) using a circular saw. Tom's approach will be safer and more accurate for most people but I've used a circular saw nearly every day for 25 years and there's not much I can't do with it. Short of crown moulding.

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Scott Horstman
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Starman27]
      #2516314 - 07/13/08 11:33 AM

Quote:

Scott,

The 178 looks really happy in its new home! Great job on the observatory.




Hi Herman. The 178 has worked like a charm for me. I have the ST7 in it and I'm piggy backing a 102ED on top. Since the ST7 is self guiding, I have my old SLR stuffed in the 102 to play with film. You guys are always welcome to stop by for a visit on your way through.

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #2516315 - 07/13/08 11:34 AM

Quote:

Here's a photo of the 40-year-old ASH (Astronomical Society of Harrisburg) Ash Dome.

Dave Mitsky




Cool Dave! Long lost brothers. Is that a 15 footer? Looks bigger than this one.

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2516947 - 07/13/08 06:03 PM

It looks at home with your cluster Scott, Well done

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #2518744 - 07/14/08 05:13 PM

Beautiful restoration job Scott. There's nothing like a dome that screams classic astronomy!

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: bluestar]
      #2521347 - 07/15/08 09:49 PM

It really looks great in person -- very authentic and timeless. Great job, Scott!

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Gary


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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: half meter]
      #2521590 - 07/16/08 12:37 AM

With that big classic refractor in there, it's like a Time Machine.

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TOA-130S
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Vintage C5
Megrez II 80mm ED Triplet APO
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Rusty]
      #2521626 - 07/16/08 12:59 AM

I have profound respect for such restoration projects -- great work!

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Adam

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: soreneck]
      #2524028 - 07/17/08 09:03 AM

I love all the modern equipment but the dome and some scopes I have are like preserving a little piece of astronomy history. there's a feeling you get being in the dome, knowing that Mr. Becker was possibly doing variable star or novae research or cometology from the observatory when I was 4 years old. Pretty neat.

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Jeff B
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2524070 - 07/17/08 09:29 AM

Wonderful project and excellent results!

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2524209 - 07/17/08 11:04 AM

Quote:

I love all the modern equipment but the dome and some scopes I have are like preserving a little piece of astronomy history. there's a feeling you get being in the dome, knowing that Mr. Becker was possibly doing variable star or novae research or cometology from the observatory when I was 4 years old. Pretty neat.




Scott, you are so right! Being able to preserve history, & literally have it "in your hands" is such a inspiring feeling, not to mention what you are doing for Astronomy history

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Dr Morbius
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: csa/montana]
      #2988906 - 03/17/09 01:47 PM

You said it, Carol. Btw, does anyone know a company that builds a 16 or 17 foot dome that's well built and doesn't cost a fortune? I know there are a few companies that build domes, but I may have missed a few. I may have to build my own to save money, but for me that's a daunting project.

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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: Dr Morbius]
      #2989294 - 03/17/09 05:58 PM

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You said it, Carol. Btw, does anyone know a company that builds a 16 or 17 foot dome that's well built and doesn't cost a fortune? I know there are a few companies that build domes, but I may have missed a few. I may have to build my own to save money, but for me that's a daunting project.




Daunting to say the least....and expensive too.

Rolling the numbers off my head..for me to build a 17-20ft Dome...and the supporting structure will cost nearly 3 times at it would to build a 18x18 roll off roof OB.

Because my dome would have to be made from stainless or aluminum......

Besides....after 30 years of enjoying open sky observing with my 6"f/15....to live under a dome would some how distract. I can enjoy open sky observing and then...roll the roof on...shutting things up tight.

That's my view anyway...... The idea has individual mileage.

Rob

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Dr Morbius
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Re: Blast from the Past new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #2990663 - 03/18/09 01:26 PM

"Because my dome would have to be made from stainless or aluminum...... "

Is fiberglass over wood not a good option?

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