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markseibold
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... because the vibrant colors blow people away- yet I try to stay realistic to the observed image through the eyepiece
Impressions of the crater Copernicus and Saturns rings.
-Mark
PS: Also economy of pastels over oil paints
Edited by markseibold (06/06/08 07:10 PM)
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Erix
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Thanks, Mark. I like pastels for their blendability and dynamic range. They are so easy to manipulate compared to colored pencils or graphite.
They are a little more difficult to add the finer details, such as in crater walls or a star field. But as you've stated before, sketching larger allows for more details to be added.
Excellent lunar impression, Mark!
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markseibold
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Erika
Thanks; I really wanted to work longer on that lunar impression. I know went against what Les Cowley talks about working on small areas at a time. I tried to do the entire image of the lunar surface that evening in maybe a half hour. However I knew I could not get every crater in so I focused on what impressed me the most. That was the general terminator line and the intense contrast in the crater walls such as Copernicus and then the ones nearer the terminator. I was really just trying to capture the effect from live observation.
As for pastels, yes I agree with you. I would like to influence others to try their hand at simple sketching with pastels as an introductory to art. They are so easy to work with.
Have you ever painted with oil paints? Many people think that oils are too much of a commitment.
-Mark
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Erix
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I used to do oils when I was in school. I did like acrylics better, though, if anything because they dried faster and clean up was easier.
Charcoal is my favorite medium to use.
I'm not sure I'd like to use paints at the eyepiece. Using charcoals and pastels require a knack to keep the dust off the glass as it is. I could just see me getting paint all over my gear. 
But it would be fun to pursue paints for general art instead of during my observations. Water color used to be fun as well.
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markseibold
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Erika
I meant to continue this discussion as I am still trying to inspire others to at least try pastels as I feel that they are so easy and as you and other artists know, not the commitment of wet paints.
Blending on the paper with pastels is also easier than with the commitment of mixing paints and applying them. I find this an easier approach as various pastel colors are mixed on the paper or [blended] after they are applied to the paper. Conversely oil paints are conventionally mixed on a pallet before applying to the canvas.
Also, paining is usually done after a rough draft sketch is initiated. I could not imagine painting directly from eyepiece observation. This would necessitate the "wet-in-wet" technique that Van Gogh was known for.
Perhaps I will be the first astronomer to try this approach in live from the eyepiece oil paint rendering?
Mark 
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Just keep doing what you are doing Mark, I for one love your work...
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Don't think expensive equipment will make up for lack of talent or practice..
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