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Nightfly
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North America Nebula Region
      #2529013 - 07/19/08 08:22 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

Another frame from my testing of the 300mm SMC Takumar (non-ED version).

July 5, 2008
NGC-7000 North America Nebula
Pentax 67 with 300mm SMC Takumar at full aperture f/4
30 minute exposure on Kodak E200 pushed +2 stops
Some high clouds passed by during exposure making Deneb appear bloated.


Larger version at: http://tinyurl.com/6krl44

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Nightfly]
      #2529676 - 07/20/08 08:32 AM

Now these recent shots show the power of that excellent lens, medium format film, and your skill. Great job!

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: ClownFish]
      #2530165 - 07/20/08 01:58 PM

That's incrdeible!

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: tommyhawk13]
      #2530453 - 07/20/08 05:03 PM

Superb widefield shot. I like the huge number of pinpoint stars. The 60m by 70mm frame really gives a great FOV.

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: s58y]
      #2530576 - 07/20/08 06:18 PM

Is this taken at a relatively-dark site?

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #2530586 - 07/20/08 06:25 PM

Quote:

Is this taken at a relatively-dark site?




Very dark. Magnitude limit at my zenith (the area this photo was taken) was a little above 7th magnitude. I am fortunate that I live under this sky. It's right outside my door.

Jim

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Nightfly]
      #2530606 - 07/20/08 06:37 PM

Quote:

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Is this taken at a relatively-dark site?




Very dark. Magnitude limit at my zenith (the area this photo was taken) was a little above 7th magnitude. I am fortunate that I live under this sky. It's right outside my door.

Jim




Ah...that explains it. I've taken digital images at faster effective exposures than the one you mentioned, and managed an all-white frame, so I was wondering how you did that on film. A dark site is obviously a big help in the whole sky-glow thing!


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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #2530874 - 07/20/08 09:19 PM

I could not do film based astrophotography under light polluted skies. I suppose that is where CCD's and DSLR's have such huge success. Stacking several short exposures is great (and easy as well as a must)for digital, but less practical for film. It can be done however. I take credit for my successful images, but my dark skies make it possible.

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Nightfly]
      #2531471 - 07/21/08 09:11 AM

Contrast seems pretty high. IMHO, I wouldn't push E200 over 1 stop - pushing increses contrast and E200 seems contrasty enough even without pushing..

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #2531841 - 07/21/08 12:48 PM

Boris,

Thanks for your take on the image. I agree the contrast is too high in the center of the frame. The lens was wide open and field illumination was not even. These were test shots with the lens. I also had high clouds at the end of exposure. I will expose again and stop down to 5.6 getting rid of the vignetting. The lens seems to have good even illumination at 5.6. I disagree that pushing 2 stops is too much. Perhaps in this case. I will save that for another thread. I do appreciate your criticism.

Have you gotten your 67 working again? Have you tried the 300mm?

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: Nightfly]
      #2535940 - 07/23/08 07:35 AM

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Have you gotten your 67 working again?




Unfortunately, not Actually I have not been doing much film astrophotography lately, just a couple of quick DSLR shots.

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Have you tried the 300mm?




Um, no, I don't have the 300mm and no plans to buy one

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Re: North America Nebula Region new [Re: AstroBobo]
      #2551926 - 07/31/08 07:18 AM

Fantastic photo!

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