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Peter27284
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Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new
      #2529094 - 07/19/08 09:14 PM

Guy came by and said "hey type in 32xx" and I did, boy was cool. To bad I was so busy looking I wasn't THINKING and didn't make a note of what this Nebula was. SOOOO someone must know, its NGC 32xx something. Was in the eastern sky up high and it was BIG. I used a 40 mm EP and she was BIG still. While we're on the topic, what else is EASY to find and see with a 40 mm EP???? Was looking around at Jupiter and Saturn, boy what a treat. Thanks

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2529101 - 07/19/08 09:22 PM

Well, seeing as Jupiter and Saturn are on separate horizons, you could be anywhere...

Could you narrow it down a bit?


Heres a list of NGC's... Scroll down to the 3200's...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NGC_objects_%283000-3999%29

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Peter27284
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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: NeoDinian]
      #2529114 - 07/19/08 09:31 PM

Geeez that web page is GREAT, leafed through and don't see what I saw, guess I'll just have to admit I wasn't paying attention and do the unthinkable....ASK HIM. Bummer thanks alot
Peter

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: NeoDinian]
      #2529135 - 07/19/08 09:48 PM

Maybe 3242 the Cat's eye/ghost of Jupiter nebula?

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: LLD]
      #2529165 - 07/19/08 10:03 PM

Im betting that was it. It's the most prominent nebula in the NGC 3200-3300 column.

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: turndalightsoff]
      #2529195 - 07/19/08 10:27 PM

The original OP said it was BIG even in his 40mm EP. NGC3242 really isn't what I would qualify as BIG. The Cat's Eye (NGC6543) isn't very big either so I have a feeling NGC 32xx isn't correct. Could it have been NGC6992/NGC6960 better known as the Veil, this is certainly huge and is in the East or maybe NGC7000, the North American Nebula, again this one is huge, don't know if you have dark skies where you viewed tis either which is a must (without filters anyway) for these 2. Maybe if you gave us a time you saw this we could narrow it down for you.

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: xfile101]
      #2529369 - 07/20/08 12:55 AM

I was thinking the same thing... his description sounds more like the Cygnus Loop (Veil) or maybe the North American, although I think 7000 would be even harder to see than normal due to Luna.

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: calan]
      #2529606 - 07/20/08 07:01 AM

If he could do a drawing of what he saw.......

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Re: Need to know about a Nebula I saw last night new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2529673 - 07/20/08 08:31 AM Attachment (7 downloads)

It would help if you indicated where in the sky you saw this object at what time, then we might be able to give you a good guess which one you found. The NGC object in the 3000's are mostly lost in the Sun's glare and will be out of sight until this winter. Most objects in the 3200's and 3300's are galaxies, but there is the very bright planetary nebula NGC-3242, which looks like a bluish eyeball. It is however not a large object.

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We have a winner!!! new [Re: Achernar]
      #2529718 - 07/20/08 09:07 AM

Yep its 3242 THATS what I saw. I guess "huge" is a relative term. To me anyway being fairly new, and seeing that, I was impressed. I must say, being new to this hobby has been one pleasant viewing experience after another. What a blast. Was bummed as last night was cloudy all night long here in western NC.
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Re: We have a winner!!! new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2529784 - 07/20/08 09:57 AM

You'll find it more impressive when you can look at it when it's not close to the Sun. Moreover, if you're not too far north, you would definitely find NGC-3132, also known as the Eight Burst Nebula which is on the border between Vela and Antlia. It's very bright and has a odd structure to say the least, and well worth looking for in the coming winter and spring.

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Re: We have a winner!!! new [Re: Achernar]
      #2529841 - 07/20/08 10:46 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, at what time in the evening did you view NGC3242?

According to information available, this object would be very low on the western horizon at 2100 EDT.

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Re: We have a winner!!! new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2529937 - 07/20/08 11:58 AM

You sure that was it? NGC 3242 sets at virtually the same time as the Sun, just fifty degrees to the South. It seems unlikely it was visible at this time of year. In fact, since the NGC catalog is generally organized in increasing right ascension, it seems unlikely that anything in the 32XX range would have been visible. I'd ask what object it was if I were you.

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Re: We have a winner!!! new [Re: Jared]
      #2529997 - 07/20/08 12:34 PM

I agree, this make no sense to me. NGC3242 sets around 8PM and since it is setting it certainly isn't in the East! Is it possible that you actually saw the Cat's Eye Nebula(NGC6543)? This is actually in the NE so I think this is more likely and it does resemble the Ghost of Jupiter Nebula although as I stated before, it isn't what I would call big. Again, what time were you viewing, this will help a lot.

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Hmmmm new [Re: xfile101]
      #2530017 - 07/20/08 12:42 PM

well it was about 2200 hours I'd say EDST and it was definately in the eastern sky, now I can't remember elevation we were hopping around so much. I'll ask he'll be around during the day tomorrow and I'll find out and post the correct answer but sure looked similar to what had been proposed earlier

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Re: Hmmmm new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2530187 - 07/20/08 02:12 PM

Based the your information, scope and description, I'd say it might be M27(NGC 6853).

A lot should be visible with your scope and a 40mm EP which gives approximate mag of 97x.

Most of my viewing with my Z10 has been done at 74x or 96x and I've viewed 71 Messier objects so far.

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Re: Hmmmm new [Re: Wobrak]
      #2530239 - 07/20/08 02:50 PM

I agree, I bet it was M27, the Dumbell Nebula. I ran across it by accident and was shocked at how big and awesome it was!

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Re: Hmmmm [Re: mtngoat62]
      #2530291 - 07/20/08 03:14 PM

I too believe it was M27, one of my favorites.

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Re: Hmmmm new [Re: Peter27284]
      #2530733 - 07/20/08 07:50 PM Attachment (11 downloads)

If what you saw looks like this, you have indeed seen the Dumbell Nebula. NGC-3242 or the Ghost of Jupiter couldn't have been what you've seen, because it sets soon after the Sun. Below is a drawing of M-27, whose NGC number is NGC-6853. It's high in the sky to the east around 10 p.m. local time and bright enough to punch through a lot of moonlight or light pollution.

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Re: Hmmmm new [Re: Achernar]
      #2530805 - 07/20/08 08:45 PM

That makes sense. Big planetary nebula--40mm eyepiece in a 14" scope would yield 90 power--and in the right part of the sky at the right time.

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