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danielrc
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Satellite Tracking Help Required
      #2540486 - 07/25/08 12:02 PM

Hi,

I tried last night to view an track the ISS on my 10" LX200GPS. I began by uploading the file to Autostar from the Meade website.

I then called up the satellite and set an alarm, the alarm then sounded, so I selected the ISS again and clicked track, but some reason the scope did not follow the ISS, but started tracking too early.

Can someone tell me if I am going about this correctly?

Is there better LX200 compatible sat tracking software to use?

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: danielrc]
      #2540586 - 07/25/08 12:49 PM

Check out this Yahoo group.

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: imjeffp]
      #2540872 - 07/25/08 02:48 PM

I haven't tried tracking satellites yet, but I think that the key is that you have to wait until the object is in the field of view, and then start the tracking. The alarm is supposed to sound to let you know that it's time to get ready, not the time to start tracking. You have to be at the eyepiece and wait for the satellite to enter the field of view, and then start the tracking.

At least that's my take on it from reading the manuals of my Meade scopes. It says that you can resume viewing other objects, and when the alarm sounds, return to the satellite menu and choose the satellite. Then, when the sat is in the fov, hit "Enter" to start tracking it. It's the same method in both my LXD75 manual and the manual for my LX200R. Both are on page 34 of the manuals.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: katodog]
      #2540909 - 07/25/08 03:07 PM

PLUS--- you must have the latest TLE orbit data in the hand controller-- recent to within a few days.

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: katodog]
      #2541064 - 07/25/08 04:18 PM

Thanks for your help.

I re-read the manual, and I do understand (I think) now that you have to manually get the object in the viewfinder and then set the scope to track.

I thought that after the countdown had gotten to zero that the scope would have automatically then tracked the satellite. Maybe I am wrong, perhaps it does do this, does it?

I think manually aligning a satellite like the ISS, would seem a bit hit and miss getting it in the viewfinder.

By the way, does the satellite file on the Meade website remain up to date? or should I get a file from another website?

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: danielrc]
      #2541323 - 07/25/08 06:26 PM

I would assume that the info would be good for at least a few days. You can always go to Nasa's Human Spaceflight and look for your state and nearby city. It will give you the flyover times, and it's been pretty accurate so far for the times that I've viewed it with the binos.


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As far as the actual method, I think the procedure is that the scope slews to the spot where it thinks it should be. Whether it's accurate or not, I couldn't tell you. Like I said, I haven't tried it with my scopes yet.

The timer is only to keep you aware of when the object is getting close to the time of viewing. It won't automatically get the scope on the object. The timer is so that the light bulb goes off over your head and you go "Oh, it's time to get ready". Which is pretty smart, since, if you're anything like me, you'd miss it every time without some kind of reminder. The scope will slew to the area where it thinks it should be, and then you do the rest when you see the object in the field of view.

Now, going by that, I would think that you'd need to use the finder scope because you'd probably want a decent mag through the scope to see the details. I mean, that's the point of doing it in the first place, seeing what kind of detail you can pick out on the ISS. So you should make sure that your finder and scope are pretty accurate with each other.


I'm sure those who have tracked satellites and such will have better knowledge of how it is, whether it's a matter of "sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't", or if the odds of getting your object are pretty good.


But, I will say that you sure have sparked the interest in me to try it. I'm going to give it a go the next chance I get.

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: imjeffp]
      #2541509 - 07/25/08 08:29 PM

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Check out this Yahoo group.




Seriously... check out this news group. The program offered there is really great and allowsfor some great tracking.



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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: snowdragonusa]
      #2541703 - 07/25/08 10:33 PM

I agree Sat Tracker was my program of choice for my LX200GPS mount.

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Re: Satellite Tracking Help Required new [Re: JAT Observatory]
      #2541781 - 07/25/08 11:19 PM

That program is Much better than Autostar!

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