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lymorkiew45
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Reged: 12/30/07
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Loc: San Jose, CA
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This is an, extremley, extremley faint globualr in the stinger of Scorpious, and I have thought about searching for this object, but at magnitude 11.5, I would think that this object would not stand out very well in a monster scope, I have read that this globular has been detected in moderate size scopes, and is very, very faint, and extremely small, (30 arcseconds), and it appears as one of the members as a faint double star, so this object is a challenge even in the largest scopes, I plan on seeing this object, but it is so low in the Southern sky, from my location...clear skies 
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Bill Weir
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That's a full 10 degrees above the horizon from San Jose. It shouldn't be a problem if the sky is good.
Recently on two occasions, on nights of good transparency, I've observed with detail, NGC 6302 (the bug nebula) from my latitude. It was only 4 degrees above the horizon. I was using 304X magnification with my 12.5" dob.
If the sky is decent your glob shouldn't be a problem. My recent bagging of the faint glob NGC 6540, with my 6"dob at just a little over 13 degrees above the horizon says so.
Good luck.
Bill
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sgottlieb
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Reged: 07/22/07
Posts: 218
Loc: SF Bay area
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I found it very tough from northern California in my 13" (Livermore club site) over 20 years ago...
13" (5/30/87): extremely faint, small, very low surface brightness, visible only 20% of time with averted. Mag 9.7 HD 159073 is attached 40" SSW of center. Located 36' ESE of Howe 87 = 7.5/8.8 at 3". Failed to find on several previous attempts. This globular, along with N6749, are the two most difficult NGC globulars.
But it was much easier with a 12" from Australia!
12" (6/29/02): faint but not difficult. Appears as a 2' diffuse glow with no concentration. The observation was hampered by a mag 10 star at the SSW edge. Ton 2 is located 37' NE.
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Never
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Reged: 11/22/05
Posts: 109
Loc: Finland
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I have to say the object is visible even in small refractors when it is higher in the sky. Extremely faint perhaps but visible. The near by Ton 2 is more challenging.
/Jake
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RRaubach
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How small a refractor? I have tried and tried with my TMB203 f/7, using every trick in my bag of tricks! I have never detected even a hint of this globular. I have also tried using my Discovery 12.5", to no avail. From my site, NGC 6380 is a "horizon scraper" at best. There are very few windows of opportunity for me, since it is obscured by hills to my SW part of the time. This is a toughie! I have also failed to bag N6749.
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Never
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Reged: 11/22/05
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Loc: Finland
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How small a refractor? I have tried and tried with my TMB203 f/7, using every trick in my bag of tricks! I have never detected even a hint of this globular. I have also tried using my Discovery 12.5", to no avail. From my site, NGC 6380 is a "horizon scraper" at best. There are very few windows of opportunity for me, since it is obscured by hills to my SW part of the time. This is a toughie! I have also failed to bag N6749.
NGC 6380 was barely visible with a 4.7" refractor from La Palma (28N) few months ago. I'm sure being further to the south helps in this case.
/Jake
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sgottlieb
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Reged: 07/22/07
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Loc: SF Bay area
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I have to say the object is visible even in small refractors when it is higher in the sky. Extremely faint perhaps but visible. The near by Ton 2 is more challenging.
/Jake
We you able to view Ton 2 in the small refractor?? Here are my notes with a 12" from outside of Sydney, Australia...
12" (6/29/02 - Bargo, Australia): at 186x, this highly reddened globular appeared as a very faint glow, best viewed by keeping mag 4.3 Q Scorpii located 6' SE out of the field. Ton 2 appeared as round, diffuse glow, just 1' in diameter with a faint star superimposed and a few around the edges including a mag 11.5 star just off the south side [40" S of center]. More difficult than NGC 6380 which was viewed a few minutes afterwards.
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Achernar
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Reged: 02/25/06
Posts: 3448
Loc: Alabama, USA
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I had no luck with NGC-6380 so far either, but not because of lack of aperture. A 10-inch should be able to show it, but the skies here are hazy and light pollution is bad too. Even in coastal Alabama, it does scrape the horizon.
Taras
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