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Lunatiki
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Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work
      #2559740 - 08/04/08 03:24 PM

I've been toying around with the idea of getting a new scope. All I do is shoot planets, no visual or DSO. I have been leaning towards a Celestron CPC 11. The thing is, we plan on moving in 5 years or so, and when we do, we'll have land and I want to get some type of dome observatory. Since I'll be doing that, a C14 would make sense, but it seems as though they have to be modified and cooled to get the best results out of them. That is why I would avoid it and go with the CPC. Would an 11 inch need to be cooled to maximize the results? Would you guys recommend a 12 inch Meade over a C11? I want to stick with a SCT and not go with a Newtonian. Input appreciated!

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Bob D
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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: Lunatiki]
      #2559992 - 08/04/08 05:29 PM

When I was looking for a scope earlier this year, primarily for planetary and lunar imaging, I searched the internet for photos of Clavius, Jupiter, and Saturn. That resulted in my purchasing a CPC 925. It was close between that and the CPC 1100. I was mainly convinced by the photos of Damian Peach, who has used both with great results. I knew that I would never be able to do better, and the 925 looked adequate as well as a little easier for me to carry around since I don't have a good location for "wheeling-out" or a permanent pier.

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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: Bob D]
      #2560059 - 08/04/08 06:01 PM

Regardless of whether you go for a C925, C11 or C14, they'll have to be cooled and modified to get the best out of them.

If you're serious about your planetary imaging, which I know you are, you just have to take that into account and plan for it.

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Lunatiki
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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: iceman]
      #2560073 - 08/04/08 06:08 PM

Thanks Mike. I was afraid of that. The thought of spending thousands on a scope and "modifying" it, thus voiding the warranty isn't a pleasant thought.

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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: Lunatiki]
      #2560112 - 08/04/08 06:22 PM

I'm curious as to what sorts of modifications you have to do to a C14 (or C11) for planetary imaging? I never did anything with the C925 I owned or the Mewlon 250 I own now.

Thanks!
Paul

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Lunatiki
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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: Sunspot]
      #2560212 - 08/04/08 07:02 PM

Hey Paul! There is a thread down toward the bottom on the page on it. It involves dismantaling and drilling. Something I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to do. Perhaps I could hire it out, but who knows.

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DBK 21AF04.AS
K3ccd/Registax4/PSP8
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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: Lunatiki]
      #2561087 - 08/05/08 04:40 AM

C14 you know you want it.

I was the first to put peltier cooling into a C14 and it makes a huge difference to the performance of the scope. Mainly in terms of getting the scope to ambient quickly. Traditional cooling will not see the mirror at ambient for nearly 6 hours after sunset. 1.5 hours of cooling and I am at ambient. This can mean a difference of 30 degrees C change in a temperate climate.

It is not as hard as you think, if you follow my tut, you just need to be careful.

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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary new [Re: Lunatiki]
      #2562533 - 08/05/08 07:28 PM

If all you will be doing is imaging planets, then the Lazzarotti scopes may be a good choice.

http://www.alpineastro.com/LAZZAROTTI/Lazzarotti_Home.htm

If you're working with a more limited budget, I've seen many good planetary images taken with the humble C9.25.

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Jim


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Re: Recommendations on a new scope for planetary work new [Re: rumples riot]
      #2565890 - 08/07/08 10:20 AM

Ah yes, I forgot about your adding cooling to your C14. A scope that size should have that as a factory option (IMHO). I get spoiled by the Mewlon because it has sort of a "poor mans" cooling feature.

Paul


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C14 you know you want it.

I was the first to put peltier cooling into a C14 and it makes a huge difference to the performance of the scope. Mainly in terms of getting the scope to ambient quickly. Traditional cooling will not see the mirror at ambient for nearly 6 hours after sunset. 1.5 hours of cooling and I am at ambient. This can mean a difference of 30 degrees C change in a temperate climate.

It is not as hard as you think, if you follow my tut, you just need to be careful.




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Mewlon 250, Tak TOA-130, SolarMax 60, SKYnyx 2-0M
http://www.sunspot51.com


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