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LumpyDarkness
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Loc: San Francisco bay area
Seeing stars in two very different clusters.... new
      #2562114 - 08/05/08 03:39 PM

I had a few other interesting experiences at Bumpass Hell parking lot on Mount Lassen last week
that I have not yet related.

Last year, at the same location, Steve Gottlieb and my daughter Mimi were looking at Palomar 5 in
Steve's 18" Starmaster. Both Mimi and Steve were seeing it. I could not convince myself I saw it.
Mimi described it, Steve said he thought she might be seeing the core of the faint globular. I
was impressed.

This year Bob Jardine had a great and convincing view of Pal 5 in his 17.5" Dob. He
asked me to take a look. Bob described a wide triangle of stars that nearly filled the high power field of view. One pair had a dimmer star midway between them. Just outside the triangle and
near but to the side of the dim star, I could detect a definite faint glow with averted vision. I
could hold it averted. I have to admit being pretty excited about it, after the disappointment of
the prior year, and being shown up so badly by my daughter (and her then 19 year old eyes). But,
topping of the sighting, as I sat and soaked in the view, I was getting twinkling in the glow!
Stars! I almost fell over. I can't tell you how many years I'd tried for Pal 5 at Lassen. This
was a great view!

OK. Cluster number two. This one is not so difficult to observe. In fact, it is a naked eye
cluster, one any Messier hound has observed. M7 is a noticeable glow, even from many in-town
locations. Up at Lassen, it is literally an "in your face" bright blob, to the unaided eye. I
know I mentioned how many naked-eye Messier objects there were at Lassen this trip. M7 is, I bet,
the brightest of them. So, I'm standing there admiring it, I doubt it was even fully dark yet,
and suddenly, I see stars in it. I mean *stars* - twinkling in and out! I had to do a double,
then triple-take to be sure I wasn't having sulpher fume induced hallucinations! But there they
were, no doubt about it. Not the "stare at it and hold 'em" sort of stars, but moving the eye
around, they'd pop in and out. I can't remember ever seeing that in any "telescopic" cluster
before. Anyone else? Checking it using "The Sky"... ten of the cluster's stars range from mag
5.6 to 6.4, most of them mag 6.0 or 6.1. Think about it too... that puppy is relatively low to
the horizon. I was, and still am, amazed.

Boy, its fun when a trip the prior week gives you a "memory buzz" like this! :-)

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Mark Wagner

18" f/4.5 Dob
The Astronomy Connection: Observing Reports - updated 11/21/08
Adventures In Deep Space: updated 11/12/08
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stevek
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Re: Seeing stars in two very different clusters.... new [Re: LumpyDarkness]
      #2563018 - 08/05/08 11:18 PM

Good post Mark...brought a smile to my face....
Steve

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DSO 8" f6 DOB w/ 8x50 RACI & 2"Crayford
1958 Sears Discoverer 76mm Refractor
GSO SV 30mm 2",21mm Hyp,13mm Strat,BO/TMB ver2-6mm & 4mm
1.25"Filters: DGM-NPB, 25%ND
1.25" plossls: 25mm,20mm,15mm,9mm
Orion 2X Shorty Barlow
Garrett Gemini LW 11x56mm binocs
BTG-10 4.0mW green laser pointer



"What is that burning in the sky? Tell me y'all..." Jeff Beck/Jan Hammer


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FirstSight
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Loc: Raleigh, NC
Re: Seeing stars in two very different clusters.... new [Re: LumpyDarkness]
      #2563620 - 08/06/08 10:34 AM

Quote:

So, I'm standing there admiring it, I doubt it was even fully dark yet,
and suddenly, I see stars in it. I mean *stars* - twinkling in and out! I had to do a double,
then triple-take to be sure I wasn't having sulpher fume induced hallucinations!

Boy, its fun when a trip the prior week gives you a "memory buzz" like this! :-)




I'd check what kind of mushrooms were in the soup you ate for supper before your observing session.


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Chris M., aka "First Sight"
Orion XT12i Dob with Moonlite CR-2 focuser
WO Megrez 90 refractor on UniStar Light mount
Nikon 10x50 Binoculars


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LumpyDarkness
sage


Reged: 08/06/07
Posts: 308
Loc: San Francisco bay area
Re: Seeing stars in two very different clusters... [Re: FirstSight]
      #2563683 - 08/06/08 11:11 AM

Quote:


I'd check what kind of mushrooms were in the soup you ate for supper before your observing session.




LOL! I guarantee you, there was nothing magic about mushrooms in any soup. If anything, based on my response to seeing those clusters, any speculated soup would more likely contain Shiitake.

For those not in the know, my reference to hallucinations from sulphur fumes is in reference to the at times noticeable o-dur in the area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpass_Hell

Lassen is a very active geothermal area.

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Mark Wagner

18" f/4.5 Dob
The Astronomy Connection: Observing Reports - updated 11/21/08
Adventures In Deep Space: updated 11/12/08
Join us in June at California's Golden State Star Party



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