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Mitchell M.
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Generally when I set up I go ahead and do the "Automatic" alignment and am pretty familiar with the steps the scope goes through.
Can anybody tell me what steps the scope goes through for the "Easy" alignment?
My understanding, without actually trying it, the scope does the same thing as it does in "Automatic" plus calibrates the sensors using Polaris and uses two additional stars for the alignment itself.
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Brooklyn
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There are 3 alignment options that I can see on my meade lx90 emc (SCT).
NOTE: this is an older LX90 that still uses the same lx200 mount but has an older version of autostar. 98% of my telescope is gonna be identical to yours, only differences i have determined are the autostar software and slightly different optical coatings.
Easy Alignment => The scope picks a bright star in the sky and asks you to center it in the eyepiece. You MUST have a pretty good understanding of the constellations and which stars are named what. Personally, i always hated easy alignment because i don't know exactly which star is which if it is picked randomly.
One star alignment => YOU get to pick the star that you want to align with. This is infinitely easier than "easy align" as its far simpler to just determine what 1 or 2 stars are called, as opposed to a vast possibility of different alignment stars that the easy align picks for you.
Two Star alignment => This is the option that i use every time, and is my favorite. It is the same as one star alignment, you get to choose what star you want to align with in a long alphabetical list of stars.
Here is how i learned to do it, coming from NO knowledge of what any of the stars are called.
First I determined which are the 2-4 brightest starts in my night sky. In central new jersey, the brightest stars are Arcturus, Altair, Deneb, and Vega. Depending on the time of night I use 2 of these 4 stars since they are very easy to locate.
Altair, Vega, and Deneb form a well visible TRIANGLE of 3 bright stars, easily seen by the naked eye.
Arcturus is easy to locate since it is pretty much by itself and it has a reddish/orange color as opposed to altair deneb vega which glow BLUE same as most stars.
Three Star alignment?? => Now i have never updated my firmware on my lx90 emc because I never saw a reason to. My goto has always performed admirably, and even though not all of the objects appear dead center in the eyepiece, they are still very close regardless.
I would expect that 3 star alignment is even more accurate than 2 star, but only specialized activities or the most discerning observer would really need it.
My lx90 emc even has the HIGH PRECISION mode in which it focuses on a bright object near your target, asks you to center that bright object, and THEN it moves to your originally selected target. I have NEVER used this mode in all the time i have had my telescope, since I never tried astrotography and the normal goto mode far exceeds any needs I have for accuracy.
-------------------- Meade 8.25"(209.55mm) LX-90 EMC (SCT)
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Mitchell M.
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The reason I mentioned Polaris is because one of my viewing sites Polaris is hiding behind some trees so if the scope 'calbrates sensors' during Easy Alignment I wouldn't be able to complete the alignment and possibly lose calbration that was done on Polaris at another site. Follow me?
I do know that if I calbrate the sensors, when the scope slews to an alignment star, it's almost spot-on.
-------------------- Meade 8" LX90GPS
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Brooklyn
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I am not sure of this feature called calibrating the sensors. I have done calibrate motors but this seems to be something completely different.
About aligning with polaris, ive read that this isnt a good idea. Alignment stars that are located directly "UP" above you do not give you good accuracy alignment because of some glitch that happens when the telescope is facing directly up.
I forget what the reason is for this but maybe someone else here can remember
-------------------- Meade 8.25"(209.55mm) LX-90 EMC (SCT)
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Joe Lalumia
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Calibrating Sensors corrects for the magnetic deviation of your observing site---
You only need to do this about once per year or whenever you upgrade the firmware. After you Calibrate sensors, the scope will hit the alignment stars closer.
-------------------- LX90 8" LNT, SV Nighthawk & TelePOD, SV 80/9D & M4 mount, ETX 90, Orion XT10i, 20x80 binoculars, SV-BV3s.
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Mitchell M.
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That's what I have noticed.
My question is whether or not 'easy alignment' uses the 'calibrate sensors', thus Polaris, in it's operation.
In other words, what's the difference between 'easy alignment' and 'automatic alignment' on a GPS equipted scope?
-------------------- Meade 8" LX90GPS
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Joe Lalumia
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I believe Easy--- you pick the stars
Automatic-- the scope picks the stars (but if you press the "?" key it says the name of the star in Automatic.
Calibrate sensors is a totally separate hand controller function.
-------------------- LX90 8" LNT, SV Nighthawk & TelePOD, SV 80/9D & M4 mount, ETX 90, Orion XT10i, 20x80 binoculars, SV-BV3s.
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Kolenka
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Easy is like 2 star, only it picks the stars for you so you don't need to know the sky as well. Automatic adds in the LNT and GPS modules to this to make it more accurate if you didn't balance and align your scope first.
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Joe Lalumia
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Kolenka-- thank you for correcting me-- I always use Automatic.
Joe
-------------------- LX90 8" LNT, SV Nighthawk & TelePOD, SV 80/9D & M4 mount, ETX 90, Orion XT10i, 20x80 binoculars, SV-BV3s.
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Mitchell M.
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Easy (Two-Star) Alignment In this method, AutoStar automatically sets the home position, and also automatically picks two stars from its libraries for alignment. During the procedure, AutoStar slews the telescope to a first alignment star. The user is asked to verify that the telescope is pointed at the chosen star and then prompted to center the star in the eyepiece. The process is repeated with a second star to complete the alignment. How to perform the Easy Align Procedure 1. Select Alignment. Select "Align: Easy" from the Setup menu. Press ENTER. 2. Home Position. The telescope automatically sets the following positions: home, level, North, and True North. If so desired, you may turn off the sensors and manually set these positions. See CALIBRATE SENSORS, page 29 for more information. 3 . Star Alignment. AutoStar chooses two stars to align upon. The telescope slews to the first star for alignment. Should the alignment star not appear in the field of view in the eyepiece, it should be easily recognized: It will be the brightest star in the area of the sky where the telescope is pointing. Use the Arrow keys to move the telescope until the star is visible and centered in the eyepiece. Press ENTER. Repeat the procedure for the second alignment star. Note: See WHICH ONE'S THE ALIGNMENT STAR, page 23, for some important tips concerning alignments stars and using your viewfinder. When the procedure is performed correctly, "Alignment Successful" displays. If AutoStar does not display this message, perform this procedure again. (Keep pressing MODE until "Align: Easy" displays and repeat the procedure.)
Sounds like "Automatic" except for ...
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