j3ffr0
sage
Reged: 07/06/08
Posts: 234
Loc: Virginia
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I'm stricken with the craze!  I was lucky enough to get a brand new 13mm T6 for my birthday a couple weeks ago. I bought a used 9mm T6 at about the same time. I started thinking that a 24mm or 35mm pan might be next.... maybe both down the road. In fact, some of you told me that you saw the 24mm in my future. I figured I'd wait for something used to show up.
Well I bought the 35mm Pan off Astromart the other day, the price was good. There was also a 24mm Pan on there that I missed out on by not being first. I started thinking about that 24mm pan last night after I went to bed. I know it would probably work better most of the time for my light polluted skies, and the 35mm is likely to get more use when I make the haul to a darker site. I was over come. I just had to get up and order that 24mm Pan. I figured while I was add it I'd order the Televue 3x barlow to compliment my Ultrascopic 2X barlow. It adds up to a lot of money spent in a very short period of time! 
In the dob that should give me:
34x, 50x, 92x, 133x (native)
100x, 185x, 267x (2x)
150x, 277x, and 400x (3x)
Heck that sure ought to satisfy me! 
I hope this bug is done with me for a while. It's expensive to feed, and I'm only going to be able to feed one of us. I don't even want to think about the Ethos variation, but yet it looms in the background.
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10" Dob
127mm Mak
PST
35, 24 Panoptic; 16, 13, 9 Nagler
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Brooklyn
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 07/24/08
Posts: 870
Loc: Central New Jersey
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Hey jeffro,
I was wondering, does anyone know if televue is going to be releasing any new eyepiece models anytime soon?
As i understood it, the current nagler eyepiece is quite a few years old.
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Meade 8.25"(209.55mm) LX-90 EMC (SCT)
Albert Einstein =>
“Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death.”
“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”
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Astro1956
member
Reged: 12/23/05
Posts: 79
Loc: NE, USA
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I've had the bug real bad. Best investment I've ever made...no regrets. All I need now is the 8mm Ethos!
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TV 102
Tele-Vue 60 Imaging System
TV 31mm T5
TV 26mm T5
TV 20mm T5
TV 16mm T5
TV 13mm T6
TV 11mm T6
TV 9mm T6
TV 7mm T6
TV 5mm T6
TV 3.5mm T6
TV 2.5mm T6
TV 2-4 Zoom Nagler
TV 13mm Ethos
TV 8mm Plossl
TV 11mm Plossl
TV 20mm Plossl
TV 55mm Plossl
TV 41mm Panoptic
Losmandy G11 Gemini Level 4
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kfred
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 11/11/03
Posts: 2005
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
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Yes, expensive upfront but, well worth the views in the long run.
Fred
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River Cam - Cambridge England
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Lamb0
professor emeritus
Reged: 07/25/07
Posts: 668
Loc: Fairbury, Nebraska
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 I don't think there's a long term cure for that disease - only sporadic periods of no new glass, or an empty wallet, which ever comes first.  At least when I meet my maker I can explain I was just trying to get a better view of all creation! 
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j3ffr0
sage
Reged: 07/06/08
Posts: 234
Loc: Virginia
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Wow, what a collection! You've got to be happy with all those options. 
Like kfred, I'm also thinking it's quite a good investment for two reasons. #1 is the views. #2 They are a pretty good investment monetarily. Worst case is I loose about $100 on the new ones if I sell, and just loose the price of shipping on the used ones. I don't know whether it's sad or funny, but that will out perform all my other investments for this year so far. 
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10" Dob
127mm Mak
PST
35, 24 Panoptic; 16, 13, 9 Nagler
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Shawn H
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 05/16/07
Posts: 1132
Loc: Southern France 43°56'N-4°50'E
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A killer virus for sure! First it gets your bank account, and THEN the views are real "heart stoppers"! Shawn
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xt10i with Telrad on 4" risers & feather touch focuser & huge Boston Red Sox decal
Starblast
15x70 Celestron Skymasters
35Stratus
27Pan
13 Ethos
8 Ethos
Orion ultrablock
Astronomik OIII
Tele Vue 2x barlow
Antares 1.6x barlow (2")
CATSEYE collimation tools
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naglertized
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 01/10/07
Posts: 1515
Loc: Jacksonville Florida
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Welcome to the addiction. I have a rather "green and black" line-up.
But as with other addictions we do NOT promote sobriety!
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Clinton
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Phillip Creed
Idiot Seeking Village
Reged: 07/25/06
Posts: 1033
Loc: NE Ohio
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Was Michael Corleone talking about the mob...
("Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in..."),
...or was he talking about Nagleritis?
Seriously, Nagleritis / Pentaxification is a pretty serious disorder. There's no cure. And it only takes one! After I got a 13T6, my tolerance for edge aberrations went waaaaaaaaay downhill.
Clear Skies,
Phil
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"Why suffer from insanity when you can revel in it?"
Wilderness Center Astronomy Club member since 1995
ICQ Comet Observer Code: CRE01
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16" f/4.5 Truss Dobsonian (FOR SALE!!)
Orion 120mm ST Refractor
23mm Axiom LX
13mm Nagler Type 6
9mm Nagler Type 6
1.75X Siebert Barlow
*****
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Jim Romanski
sage
Reged: 01/02/05
Posts: 481
Loc: Guilford, Connecticut
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Quote:
I was wondering, does anyone know if televue is going to be releasing any new eyepiece models anytime soon?
As i understood it, the current nagler eyepiece is quite a few years old.
You mean like the Ethos?
I think there's been one or two posts about them in the past year and half. 
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Jim
17.5" Dob "Project"
13.1" Coulter
8” Cave
NP 101 on a CG-5
25x100 binos
Naglers, Ethos, etc.
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Deep13
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/25/05
Posts: 1454
Loc: NE Ohio
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"Bitten by the Televue Bug"
That's a chronic condition that often accompanies aperture fever.
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Preserve the night sky. Join the Internat. Dark Sky Assn. for less than a cheap eyepiece.
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pstarr
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 09/17/04
Posts: 873
Loc: NE Ohio
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Uncle Al is smart. Just when you acquire a bunch and think your all set, he will make them smaller, better corrected. The type ones you have will be upgraded. You will have to sell them to get the type 2, then 4, then 5, and 6. Just when your all set again, he comes out with the Ethos and the affliction starts again.
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Paul
10" Home built F-6 Eq planetary Newt. w/Zambuto mirror
fully flocked aluminum tube
curved spider, Antares 1/30 wave secondary
12'x12' roll-off roof observatory
6" Home built f-6 Newt. w/Parks mirror on CG-5 Eq. mount w/Digital setting circles
4.5" Orion Starblast on Eq. mount
TV Radians 5,6,8,10,12mm
Pentax XL 10.5mm
Baader Hyperion 17mm
3.2mm TMB planetary
13mm Ethos
TV 2.5x barlow, TV 1.8x barlow
My equipment philosophy... If it ain't broke, fix it anyway.
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FirstSight
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/26/05
Posts: 2516
Loc: Raleigh, NC
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I am a severe Televue addict myself.
YESTERDAY as I purchased a 2" 2x Powermate at Southeastern Camera, I said to Tony (one of the proprietors): "This is my last eyepiece purchase - I've got everything I could possibly need now". But as I turned to walk away, I noticed my toes had been crossed when I said it.
Tony replied with a friendly smile. He's heard that one before plenty of times from plenty of people.
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Chris M., aka "First Sight"
Orion XT12i Dob with Moonlite CR-2 focuser
WO Megrez 90 refractor on UniStar Light mount
Nikon 10x50 Binoculars
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Shawn H
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 05/16/07
Posts: 1132
Loc: Southern France 43°56'N-4°50'E
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Yea!!! I'm sure uncle Al did the TV sale because he was coming out with the Ethos! Soo we'd all still be left "wanting"!  Shawn
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xt10i with Telrad on 4" risers & feather touch focuser & huge Boston Red Sox decal
Starblast
15x70 Celestron Skymasters
35Stratus
27Pan
13 Ethos
8 Ethos
Orion ultrablock
Astronomik OIII
Tele Vue 2x barlow
Antares 1.6x barlow (2")
CATSEYE collimation tools
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Bob W6PU
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/23/04
Posts: 2191
Loc: Springer-N.E.NM
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I'm waiting for a 17mm Ethos! Yes, it would be big, but would it be bigger and heavier than my present Stratus 35mm, which the "disk brake" Alt. Adj. on my XT12i yawns over?
Bob
12" F/4.9 Intelliscope with COL
10" F/5.0 Coast Instrument Treckerscope,circa 1956
Stratus 35mm, Naglers 22T4, 17T4, and 12T4. Bo/TMB 7mm and 5mm. TeleVue Paracorr
Barlows" GSO 2"ED 2x, Orion Shorty Plus 2.2x, TeleVue 2.5x, Coast Inst. 3x
Edited by Bob W6PU (08/08/08 03:45 PM)
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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 07/22/03
Posts: 1943
Loc: Scotland
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I don't know if I've been bitten, but I've definately been affected by airborne spores or something. I keep finding myself working out magnifications and fields of view for an Ethos 13 in my 'scopes....
And then there's my case full of TV Plossls and the 3x Barlow....
Hmm. Maybe on consideration I was bitten and have just been in denial?
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Equinox 120 just arrived! 
GSO 8" f6 Dob (Hi-Lux coated)
ED100 Pro, ED80
Skymax 127 Maksutov
Coronado Ha PST
Vixen GP, Porta-mount, multiple AZ-3 mounts.
Berkut 10x50 Binos, 'reasonable' no. of eyepieces
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cuir
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 03/03/07
Posts: 858
Loc: 45° 1'12. N, 73°56'12. W (Qc)
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Treatment is expensive... Got that a few days shy of one year ago...
So far, 32 Plössl, 24 Pan, 7, 11 and 13 Nagler T6s.
Symptoms still present, treatment on hold for ongoing fund raising campaign...
Give generously: I accept Paypal
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Seb
Latest eyepiece spreadsheet
Choosing the right eyepiece
Main scope: 150mm Skywatcher Maksutov
Favorite ep: 24 Panoptic
Pref'ed filters: Lumicon 0III and UHC
Mounts: EQ6-Pro and Skyview AZ
Just in: C8-S-XLT
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maureenford
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 04/27/05
Posts: 756
Loc: New Paltz, NY
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Quote:
Hey jeffro,
I was wondering, does anyone know if televue is going to be releasing any new eyepiece models anytime soon?
As i understood it, the current nagler eyepiece is quite a few years old.
I think it's a safe bet that they will introduce a new Ethos next Spring at NEAF. I think they will complete that line before they develop anything else but that's just my 2 cents.
Maureen
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Discovery 12.5" TD on Scopebuggy
with Argo Navis and Feathertouch focuser
27mmPan, 13mm & 8mmEthos, 6mm Radian
Howie Glatter laser and Blug
Coronado PST
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AZStarGuy
super member
Reged: 05/05/08
Posts: 152
Loc: Scottsdale AZ
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Maureen - I think you're right!
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Ron
8" f6 Eq Newt
24PAN, 13T6,7T1,6RAD,5RAD,4 & 3.2 Planetaries
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maureenford
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 04/27/05
Posts: 756
Loc: New Paltz, NY
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I tried to pry the info out of Paul but he ain't talking. He'd have to kill me if he told me and we've been down that road before. Could get very messy.
Maureen
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Discovery 12.5" TD on Scopebuggy
with Argo Navis and Feathertouch focuser
27mmPan, 13mm & 8mmEthos, 6mm Radian
Howie Glatter laser and Blug
Coronado PST
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Deep13
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/25/05
Posts: 1454
Loc: NE Ohio
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Well, as long as you don't have the rockin' pneumonia. The only cure for that is a shot of rhythm and blues.
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Preserve the night sky. Join the Internat. Dark Sky Assn. for less than a cheap eyepiece.
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John F
sage
Reged: 02/16/04
Posts: 308
Loc: Washington State
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And what a bite it is. Over the past 20 years at one time or another I've owned every single high end Tele Vue eyepiece with the with the exception of the 41mm Panoptic and the 20mm T5 Nagler. And given the ones I still have, I don't need either of those now.
Yes, I've been seduced by the new Ethos series and hope for the day when my monoviewing eyepiece set consists of all Ethos eyepieces in the following focal lengths: 21-17-10-8-6-5-4-3.
In the meantime, I'll just have to limp along with my 26mm, 5mm & 3.5mm Naglers plus my 13 & 8mm Ethos.
Resistance is futile.
John Finnan
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Leica 7x42 Ultravid
Nikon 7x50 Prostar
Swarovski 8.5x42 EL
Nikon 10x70 Astroluxe
Leica 12x50 Ultravid
Zeiss 15x60 B/GAT
Takahashi 22x60 Astronomer
NP-127 w/Bino Vue
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Almach
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 02/27/07
Posts: 1184
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
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Same here,
31T5, 26T5, 22T4, 17T4, 13T6, 12T4, 11T6, 9T6, 2x Powermate, Paracorr, 2x Barlow ... and a 24 Panoptic.
I've so far resisted the siren song of the Ethos but I really have an urge to try the 20T5. I like the T5 series.
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Jim
Optical Star Fleet:
Orion XT10 f/4.7
Orion XT4.5 f/8
Orion 102mm f/7 ED
70mm f/7 Skywatcher Refractor
8x40 Nikon
Ocular Arsenal:
BO/TMB, Orion Sirius Plossl, Pentax, Televue
Ocular Support:
TV Paracorr, 2x & 2.5x Powermate, 2x TV Barlow, WO Binoviewer
Orion Skyview Mount
Observing since 25 December 2006
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Downward Bound
Adrenaline Junkie
Reged: 03/29/06
Posts: 2135
Loc: Seattle
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In the meantime, I'll just have to limp along with my 26mm, 5mm & 3.5mm Naglers plus my 13 & 8mm Ethos.
John Finnan
Seems like you got it very well covered there John!!
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Bill
'flector: Vixen R200SS, Webster 22" f/3.6 (on order)
'fractors: TV-85, NP-127, PST-2X
Orion 15x63, Minox 10x52 HG, GO 22x85 HD
Sphinx, Telepod, EZ Touch, G-11 (waiting)
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turtle86
sage
Reged: 10/09/06
Posts: 300
Loc: Between Umatilla and Astatula
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The 20T5 is razor-sharp. If you like the other T5's, you'll love the 20T5. The Ethos EP's aren't bad either. 
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Same here,
31T5, 26T5, 22T4, 17T4, 13T6, 12T4, 11T6, 9T6, 2x Powermate, Paracorr, 2x Barlow ... and a 24 Panoptic.
I've so far resisted the siren song of the Ethos but I really have an urge to try the 20T5. I like the T5 series.
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Rob
18" Starmaster
8" LX200
Too many Naglers
Off-topic distractions:
Red Sox, modern lit, golf, tennis, Pearl Jam, Monty Python, fine beer and cheap wine
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maureenford
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 04/27/05
Posts: 756
Loc: New Paltz, NY
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I have to say that I'm very pleased with the Ethos line. It has enabled me to actually reduce my eyepiece collection. I'm betting that the next Ethos is in the 18-22mm range (I hope.) Then I'd just sell my 27mm Pan and still have only four eyepieces. I really like less eyepieces (since I really have only one scope.) I spend less time adjusting balance and changing eyepieces and more time viewing.
Maureen
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Discovery 12.5" TD on Scopebuggy
with Argo Navis and Feathertouch focuser
27mmPan, 13mm & 8mmEthos, 6mm Radian
Howie Glatter laser and Blug
Coronado PST
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j3ffr0
sage
Reged: 07/06/08
Posts: 234
Loc: Virginia
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I went out last night to a semi-dark site. I've only got the 13T6 and 9T6 in hand right now, but they really got a work out. I was lucky enough to be out with a more experienced observer who pointed some things out to me. Man we had some great views!  Both Naglers were great on nebulas, doubles, and clusters. There were a few times I wished I had the pans I have on order for lower power stuff. I can't wait to get those. I'll definitely have to wait until I pay this stuff off before I feed the bug again.
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10" Dob
127mm Mak
PST
35, 24 Panoptic; 16, 13, 9 Nagler
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Astro1956
member
Reged: 12/23/05
Posts: 79
Loc: NE, USA
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Thanks, It took me over a year to put the collection together. I was making overtime like crazy at work and was buying one or two lenses per month. Just as I completed all the T6s, Al comes up with the Ethos. I just managed to get the 13 and then the money ran out. And I really want the 8 mm Ethos bad!!! Maybe by Christmas. I'm lucky to have a wife who let's me buy whatever I want (God bless her). For a while I was using my G11 mount with the small but exceptional TV60is. It was a site to behold, this tiny scope on an overkill mount. But my logic was that I would never outgrow the G11 unless I hit Lotto or something and eventually would get a larger refractor. I eventually did get the TV 102 as I am mainly a planetary, lunar and double star observer. Let me tell you, this scope blew my mind. I took advantage of the sale and got what I think is the finest refractor for the money in a 4 " aperture. My obsession with collecting TV lenses is justified in that I am getting the best (in my humble opinion) and I'm keeping them for life. Next I'm getting a Losmandy adapter plate so I can set both scopes side by side. That should be fun. I've looked through many scopes including a 10" Clark and a 24" Dob and I can honestly say that the most impressive views of the planets have been through my TeleVue scopes and lenses. If AL keeps making them, I'll keep buying them. From looking at my line up, you can tell I prefer the widest possible fields. That's why I can't justify buying Radians, although I've seen great views through my friend's Radians. But why get a 10mm Radian when I already have a 9mm & 11mm T6 Nagler. That just wouldn't make sense for me anyway. Stay with TV lenses, you can't go wrong.
Best Regards
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TV 102
Tele-Vue 60 Imaging System
TV 31mm T5
TV 26mm T5
TV 20mm T5
TV 16mm T5
TV 13mm T6
TV 11mm T6
TV 9mm T6
TV 7mm T6
TV 5mm T6
TV 3.5mm T6
TV 2.5mm T6
TV 2-4 Zoom Nagler
TV 13mm Ethos
TV 8mm Plossl
TV 11mm Plossl
TV 20mm Plossl
TV 55mm Plossl
TV 41mm Panoptic
Losmandy G11 Gemini Level 4
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