ronharper
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Nice report Ed. Even though you were wearing the white lab coat of reason, the excitement comes through. Going deep and hitting the limits, that's the stuff. Makes me wish it would fair off. Ron
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Very nice report. Wish I had those dark skies. Thanks Ed.
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forgot to mention that I must have seen at least a dozen satellites pass thru my binoculars last night. Two passed right thru or next to IC4665 while I was trying to do star counts. Totally distracted me and I had to start over, but hey, thought it was pretty neat. Then another one later on passed right along side Cr399 while I was reaching for LM stars. Saw a beautiful meteor also (naked eye), passed right thru Sagitta the Arrow.
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No internal baffles infringing on light path. edz
edz, how do you check the internal baffles infringing? Thank you.
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EdZ
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by several different methods that I use to verify aperture. read the lengthy descriptions in the Small Binocular Series on checking aperture.
For starters easist way is look down thru the objective lens. If you can line up the edge of the lens with the edge of the prism, there is no baffle in the way. If you can't line them up, then there is a baffel in the way. Not precise, but very telling.
Checking Aperture
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Thanks Ed. So, if I looked through the exit pupil from ocular side and the circle is not perfectly round (like an edge being cut off), there is an internal baffle, right? I have been to a sports store and checked several identical pairs of binoculars from the same model. Some of them have perfectly round exit pupil, while few of them have the edge being cut off. Is that caused by poor assembly, or prism size too marginal, or combination of both? thanks again
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Do you guys think that this bino the Foresta 7*50 porro is best at this price point?
I looked at the Nikons and they were way more moeny than the Vixens.
I am in the market to buy before going to Acadia National Park in Aug.
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When compared to other 7x50s and 8x40s between 229 and 299, I'd put the Vixen Foresta near the top of the list. Optically it is near best in resolution but a step behind in outer filed sharpness. Its light weight ease of use could be the thing that pushes it to the top.
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Well I thought I would break open my piggy bank, and I mean that literally, and find a dealer for the Vixens on my break yesterday in NYC but that was not to be.
There are several dealers but no one had a pair on their shelves.
So much or instant gratification, I ordered a pair from OP and they will be here in a week or so. I will let you know my impressions of them though I fear not nearly as well or as thoroughly as edz here.
Al
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Ed, I got a quick question for you. Are these binoculars center-focus or IF?
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center focus
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LateViewer
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My Foresta's were waiting for me when I got home last night. It was clouded over so I did not unpack them until this morning.
So far I really like them. The low power was just what the doctor ordered for seeing the hummers on the feeder and other birds around the house.
These are the nicest Bino's I own now. I am taking them to Arcadia National park on Sat and will get back to you all with how they work out.
Al
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WO 66mm Petzval
Orion 127mm Mak with WO 2" Dielectric Diagonal
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Excuse me for this question , would the model number on the Binoculars in question be Mod # 14504....? Discribed as Vixen Foresta ZCF. Thank You Vincent
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EdZ
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Model number is 14504, but they are described as Foresta 7x50 BCF WP
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vincentdsnt
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Thank you Ed.
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Littlegreenman
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Model number is 14504, but they are described as Foresta 7x50 BCF WP
edz
Now I'm confused (more than usual ! )
On the Vixen site the 14504 is listed as Model 7x50 ZCF.
And over on the OPT site the 14504 is listed as model 7x50 ZWCF !?!
No mention of WP on either site.
I hope we are not seeing a resurgence of an old marketing dysfunctional practice. In the 1960'-70's era phonograph cartridges had unique model numbers for the big retailers to prevent comparison shopping.
LGM
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EdZ
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In the new Vixen catalogue, they are listed as 14504 - 7x50 CF nitrogen filled waterproof
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