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Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras?
      #2577040 - 08/12/08 04:50 PM

Hi,
I love my 15x70's - they get a lot of time out. But they're heavy and require a tripod. What do you recommend for high quality grab/go astro binocs that are handholdable?

Additionally I had the 15x70's adjusted to be usable for my prescription of -8 to -9 diopters, I'd want a pair that both has very long eye relief, and large diopter adjustment and/or the objective could be recessed for my prescription. Any suggestions? Thanks -

Dan

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TV Ethos 13mm
Oberwerk Ultra 15x70
Celestron C6 f/10 & AT Voyager Alt/Az mount
8" f/6.3 Newtonian (Dad's ATM) & AT66 red tube
12.5" f/4.1 Telekit (Dad's ATM Mirror)


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: danm]
      #2577302 - 08/12/08 06:32 PM

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Additionally I had the 15x70's adjusted to be usable for my prescription of -8 to -9 diopters

Dan




Who did the adjustments for you?

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Pentax 12x50mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 16x60mm PCF WP FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 20x60mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Orion 12x63mm Mini Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 20x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 30x80mm MEGAView FMC/JAPAN
Barska 30x80mm X-Trail LW FC
Burgess Optical Series II 20x90mm FMC/WP/FP

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #2578028 - 08/12/08 11:44 PM

Cory Suddarth - well known binocular technician. He does great work.

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TV Ethos 13mm
Oberwerk Ultra 15x70
Celestron C6 f/10 & AT Voyager Alt/Az mount
8" f/6.3 Newtonian (Dad's ATM) & AT66 red tube
12.5" f/4.1 Telekit (Dad's ATM Mirror)


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: danm]
      #2579486 - 08/13/08 05:47 PM

hand held complements

A Dozen 8s

the 10x50s

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: EdZ]
      #2581762 - 08/14/08 06:45 PM

Thanks Ed -

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TV Ethos 13mm
Oberwerk Ultra 15x70
Celestron C6 f/10 & AT Voyager Alt/Az mount
8" f/6.3 Newtonian (Dad's ATM) & AT66 red tube
12.5" f/4.1 Telekit (Dad's ATM Mirror)


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: danm]
      #2582323 - 08/14/08 11:43 PM

Quote:

Hi,
I love my 15x70's - they get a lot of time out. But they're heavy and require a tripod. What do you recommend for high quality grab/go astro binocs that are handholdable?




I share your love for the 15x70 Ultras. Under dark skies I get LOTS of nice views of open clusters, nebulae, Andromeda, etc... Though they're on the large side, I find I can use them grab-and-go without a tripod. I sit in a reclining lawn chair (with arm rests) on my deck and brace my arms and legs, allowing me to handhold the binoculars and enjoy some long views without bringing out the tripod. I also find this more comfortable than holding my face up to the right spot against a pair of binoculars perched on a tripod. Just tonight I pulled out the ultras and spent 15 minutes observing the moon before bed time. No tripod, setup, etc....

Notwithstanding all of this, however, it's still good to have a smaller magnification binocular for "normal" handheld observing. I like 7x for that application (scanning large pieces of sky). I'm currently using the Obie 7x56 binoculars - not the same quality as the ultras, but for $100 they satisfy my need for a scanning handheld binocular. Of course, if they ever offer a 7x50 Ultra, I'll be first in line to buy a pair .


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: Friendly Giant]
      #2582534 - 08/15/08 04:02 AM

7x50 "Ultra" are offered by several other vendors of the same range.

Are you sure your Obies are not 8x56?

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: Friendly Giant]
      #2582711 - 08/15/08 08:41 AM

Quote:

Of course, if they ever offer a 7x50 Ultra, I'll be first in line to buy a pair .




Look for my PM.

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Pentax 12x50mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 16x60mm PCF WP FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 20x60mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Orion 12x63mm Mini Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 20x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 30x80mm MEGAView FMC/JAPAN
Barska 30x80mm X-Trail LW FC
Burgess Optical Series II 20x90mm FMC/WP/FP

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #2583564 - 08/15/08 04:48 PM

The William Optic 7x50ED is an Ultra7x50.

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #2583827 - 08/15/08 07:50 PM

Quote:

Are you sure your Obies are not 8x56?




Yes, you're right - they're 8x56.


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: EdZ]
      #2583837 - 08/15/08 07:58 PM

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The William Optic 7x50ED is an Ultra7x50.

edz




Thanks, Edz. I wasn't aware of this before. Someone else has also pointed me to a review you provided in this forum in the past for these WO binoculars. Are these any different than the Orion Resolux 7x50s? They look very similar, but I note that the WO 7x50s cost around $75 more.


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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: Friendly Giant]
      #2583907 - 08/15/08 08:39 PM

AFAIK, the WO7x50 is the only one advertised as having ED glass. None of the other Ultra/Signature/Resolutx/Etc. make that claim.

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: EdZ]
      #2583952 - 08/15/08 08:55 PM

As far as stargazing goes, ED glass will NOT show more faint stars as seen in a Fujinon 7x50mm or a Nikon ProStar 7x50mm, correct?

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Pentax 12x50mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 16x60mm PCF WP FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 20x60mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Orion 12x63mm Mini Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 20x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 30x80mm MEGAView FMC/JAPAN
Barska 30x80mm X-Trail LW FC
Burgess Optical Series II 20x90mm FMC/WP/FP

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #2583966 - 08/15/08 09:02 PM

ED glass will typically show a much finer, more well corrected image. That is not just better color, but finer pinpoints. That improves image contrast. The WO7x50ED certainly does that.

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Re: Handhold complement to OB 15x70 Ultras? new [Re: EdZ]
      #2583993 - 08/15/08 09:15 PM

Thanks

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Pentax 12x50mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 16x60mm PCF WP FMC/WP/FP
Pentax 20x60mm PCF WP II FMC/WP/FP
Orion 12x63mm Mini Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 15x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 16x80mm Giant FMC/JAPAN
Orion 20x70mm Little Giant II FMC/JAPAN
Orion 30x80mm MEGAView FMC/JAPAN
Barska 30x80mm X-Trail LW FC
Burgess Optical Series II 20x90mm FMC/WP/FP

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