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AstroRealtor
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I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary
      #2578154 - 08/13/08 01:10 AM

I had the little double star in the field of view just to the north and west and maybe it was the sky being washed out by the bright moon, but, I could not for the life of me glimpse that blinking planetary. Perhaps I blinked when it winked?

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: AstroRealtor]
      #2578370 - 08/13/08 08:04 AM

Upon further review, it was probably there all along and I failed to see it for all the reasons I fail to see anything.

1.) I wasn't absolutely sure I was in the right spot.
2.) I saw what I thought was the faintness of a planetary but it was just on the edge of visibility.
3.) I had doubts about whether it would appear at all in a telescope as small as I was using (8")
4.) I was expecting to see something similar to M-57 and when I didn't I momentarily gave up.
5.) I was just practicing for the day I WILL see it.
6.) I was never "supposed" to see it at all, I was just supposed to memorize that area of sky.
7.) The "seeing" wasn't right and I would never have seen it no matter how long I looked.

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: AstroRealtor]
      #2578378 - 08/13/08 08:15 AM

Well I had the benefit of Orions Intelliscope system on my Dob, so I knew I was in the right place.

Pfffttt, nothing there, just a star in the middle of the FOV. Must be nearby outside the FOV somewhere.

So I start scanning. All of a sudden as that first star moved to the edge of the FOV and it entered my peripheral vision.....

Hey, that star just got fuzzy!!

I pan back to it...

Nah...its just a star!!

Look to the side of the FOV, that star back in my peripheral vision again....

So thats what they mean!!!

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: calibos]
      #2578522 - 08/13/08 09:29 AM

Jim, NGC 6826/Blinking is pretty small and may be overlooked as a star in a low power FOV. It IS stellar with a high surf brightness and it doesnt really need filters. Your 8" should nail this one easily and seeing wont affect it. I can pick it up @ 92X/13mm EP readily. For me, its there just as that obvious small little double star moves out of the FOV. This one takes mag well and is less 'blinky' at 150-200X. Good luck & clear skies...
Steve

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: stevek]
      #2578543 - 08/13/08 09:40 AM

Thanks for "weighing in" on this one Steve. You just knew I wasn't going to give up yet. Sometimes its the hardest things to find that are the most worth finding anyway, so I'll keep at it until I get it.

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: AstroRealtor]
      #2578632 - 08/13/08 10:35 AM

Everything Steve said. This is an easy object for an 8" scope (like mine ) The easiest way to view it is, get in the FOV (the central star is bright so this sound be easy), then once you believe it is in the FOV look DIRECTLY at it, all of a sudden you will see the nebula, then use adverted vision and it goes away, back to directly looking at it and it appears! Quite neat! This planetary kind of goes against all that you have trained you eyes to do and that is ADVERTED vision helps picking up detail, in this case it doesn't, it's the opposite. And once you "train" your eyes to view with adverted vision you have a tendency to do it automatically (without any thought at all) and this is why, IMHO, people tend to miss this one. I love this planetary and I affectionately call it "The Anti-Planetary", for reasons stated above!

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: xfile101]
      #2578804 - 08/13/08 12:13 PM

I recently saw the Blinking Planetary for the first time myself and was having issues understanding why it was called the blinking planetary. I was expecting a variable star of some kind in the center.

All I got was a **** nebula that kept disappearing out of my view when my eye twitched.

I didn't strike me that is why it might be called the Blinking Planetary until I read this thread.

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: Kolenka]
      #2579521 - 08/13/08 06:06 PM

Its a blinker for sure, don't blink for too long, if you do you better learn how to blink in resonance with it!

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Re: I blinked and missed the Blinking Planetary new [Re: AstroRealtor]
      #2579646 - 08/13/08 07:12 PM

NGC-6826 is small but very bright. Look for a bluish, out of focus star that won't become a pinpoint of light no matter what you do with the focus. That's the Blinking Planetary Nebula. Once found you'll want to use at least 150 or 200X to see it's disk and central star well.

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Re: Did I see the Blinking Planetary? new [Re: Achernar]
      #2607545 - 08/27/08 03:09 PM

I was out looking for this one Sunday night. I used the double star 16 Cygni as a "skymark" to find it. At 62x, I noticed a "star", nearly colinear with the components of 16 Cygni, slightly fainter than either of those components, and roughly equal distance. All other objects in my fov were significantly fainter points of light. I increased the power to 208x. The third "star" near 16 Cygni still appeared as a point of light, not fuzzy, but it did appear to blink off and on several times while the other stars in the FOV remained steady. Does it sound like the third "star" could have been the blinking planetary? I could not see anything else in the fov at either power that appeared to be a likely candidate. Thanks.

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Re: Did I see the Blinking Planetary? new [Re: proud uncle]
      #2607662 - 08/27/08 03:58 PM

Sounds like you may have found it. NGC6826 lies a bit NE of 16 Cygnus but I quite honestly don't know if it is in the same FOV as 16 Cygnus as I don't have the distances from each other and of course what your AFOV is. However, you are for sure in the right area. NGC6826 will appear to "blink" in and out and the central star is easy to see, it's the nebula that "blinks". The central star will appear to have a bluish-grey ring around it then it won't then it will, then it won't. It's very neat

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