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scupking
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Don't know what to get? new
      #2579093 - 08/13/08 02:52 PM

Right now I have a pair of 7x50 binos and they seem good but I was thinking of going with 10x50 or 12x50 what would be the beset all around bino. Would I even notice a difference going from 7x50 to 10x50 or 12x50? I like to scan the night sky.

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Stellarvue SV102ED
Orion Apex 127 (for sale)
Orion ST80

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Les
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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: scupking]
      #2579123 - 08/13/08 03:04 PM

What do you find deficient in your 7x50s? That would provide a clue as to what to recommend.

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Les

Canon 10x42L IS
Oberwerks BT80/45, Helix Hercules mount on Oberwerks Standard Tripod
Swift 8x44ED Ultralite
Questar 50th Anniversary Model, 501 head on Manfrotto 475 tripod
Stellarvue SV90T 90mm Fluorite refractor Bogen 3236/Televue Tele-Pod Head
Questar 7 Astro
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Wes James
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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: scupking]
      #2579130 - 08/13/08 03:06 PM

You'll definitely notice a difference going from a 7x50 up to a 10x50 or 12x50. Generally speaking, 10x50 is usually considered the max one can handhold satisfactorily. You can go to the "Best Of" threads at the top of the forum and find all kinds of information that you will find helpful.

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Wes
Atlantic Beach, FL

Some bino’s from Miyauchi 5x32 Binon's up through Garrett 20x110 Signature's,
Some telescopes from a Stellarvue 80mm NHNG up through a couple of 8” reflectors…
And a wonderful 4.25" Delmarva Shiefspiegler!
Some good friends, made here on C/N.
Oh- several cats and a wonderful wife!
Anyone want a cat???? :-O

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scupking
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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: Wes James]
      #2579617 - 08/13/08 06:48 PM

I was thinking of the Nikon Action 10x50 EX Binoculars. I still want a wide view but I want to see some more stars. I should also say I want to stay below $200.

Edited by scupking (08/13/08 07:58 PM)


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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: scupking]
      #2580648 - 08/14/08 10:33 AM

I just bought a pair of Nikon Action 10x50s that are factory reconditioned for 59.00 including shipping from Optics Planet. There is even a case and strap. Optically they are quite good and I'm very happy with them. They seem very slightly fuzzy on the outer ~20% but the other 80% are sharp.

This is my first pair of binoculars for astronomy so I don't have any comparisons to offer. I will say that views of the moon, Saturn + moons, and M13 were pretty darn good.

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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: jonw]
      #2580778 - 08/14/08 11:32 AM

Having just recently gotten the 10x50 Nikon Action Extreme myself, I must say I am most satisfied with them in every way!

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Alby

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10in LX200 Classic SCT
Oberwerk BT 100 45
7x50 USSR Binocs
Nikon Action Extreme 10x50 binocs


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KerryR
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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: jonw]
      #2580998 - 08/14/08 01:11 PM

The biggest difference you'll see, I think, between 7 and 10x is in splitting binocular double stars.

I don't think the extra power will do much on deep sky-- though spreading the light out can actually help sometimes. I prefer the 'smaller brighter' views of DSO's.

If you can keep the FOV and go higher power, then I'd say the move would be a good one. But, at less than $200, I doubt you'll get the same FOV, higher power, AND sharpness across most of the field, which defeats the purpose of the wide field.

"Seeing more stars" can happen 2 ways-- higher power with the same FOV, which makes dimmer stars easier to see (yielding 'more' stars) or LOWER power, which = wider field, and therefore more actual stars, but less resolution (apparent on double stars), or, of course higher power AND wider field (not likely-- at least not with enough edge sharpness to really make it count, unless you get good optics, which is hard below $200).

I'm not sure the move from 7x to 10x is a good one, unless it's a noticeable step up in optical quality. Otherwise, I think the difference won't be that great, maybe even a step down: higher power makes optical aberrations more apparent.

Things do get noticeably shakier with 10x. I wouldn't go above that, unless you're going to mount.

Kerry

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Re: Don't know what to get? new [Re: KerryR]
      #2581193 - 08/14/08 02:36 PM

For me the most dramatic difference between 7x and 10x is on the Moon, followed closely by the increased ability to resolve close stars in clusters. 12x would be even better.

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Mark
Leica 8x20; Vixen 8x42; Swift 8.5x44, 10x50 and 20x80; TS 7x50; Orion 15x63
WO Megrez II 80 FD + Baader 90° T2 Amici


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Re: Don't know what to get? [Re: Mark9473]
      #2581240 - 08/14/08 02:57 PM

Another benefit of going to 10x from 7x is you will have a darker sky background.

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Brian

TeleVue TV-102, Gibralter alt-az mount
Webster 14.5" f/4.3 truss dob *under construction*
Canon 10x30 IS binocs



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