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SUBSTORM
sage


Reged: 11/18/07
Posts: 253
Loc: Boise, ID
Re: The Experience new [Re: Treehopper]
      #2570684 - 08/09/08 04:45 PM

Sorry to hear that Treehopper, but i have to put up with the 100 degree temp.

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chuck
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Orion XT8
Hyperion 24mm, 17mm, 8mm + ring
TV 2x Barlow
GSO 32mm
Eyepatch


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Treehopper
sage


Reged: 07/29/08
Posts: 215
Loc: Upstate NY
Re: The Experience new [Re: SUBSTORM]
      #2570730 - 08/09/08 05:16 PM

Ugh! I take it back! Treehoppers do NOT like heat!

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Tim

Third oak on the right, and straight on 'til morning.

Meade ETX-125PE (NGC7000 Edition)

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?


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RussL
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Reged: 03/18/08
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Loc: Cayce, SC
Re: The Experience new [Re: BlakeAF]
      #2571333 - 08/10/08 12:15 AM

I guess it could be called ritualistic in some ways, or maybe just tradition. Every observing night to me is connected to the very roots of me. I began at the age of nine (you'd think I'd know more than I do by now). That first glimpse of the moon on a cold Christmas night still shimmers in my mind, along with the feeling of that icy night air. Winter viewing still gives me that feeling, not just shivering from being cold only, but also from excitement and wonder. And later in my teens the smell of a bakelite Newtonian tube added a new dimension to the experience. Different seasons also added other sensual effects, like dew on freshly cut grass and crickets in the bushes. All my viewing now at age 58 is underlined with these past impressions. Astronomy encompasses all my senses, not just sight. How could it not be so for each of us when we are out in the world we live on, being the creatures that we are? It is transcendental--here we are being what we are in our own little world while connecting and identifying with ALL that is in the universe through our tiny instruments. We are ourselves, yet a part of the whole.

Beyond all that I enjoy set-up, so I never hurry. It is relaxing in itself to handle the equipment I love so dearly. Upon observing, I am fond of the clinking of metal as I slide an eyepiece in the diagonal. The sparkle of stray light on parts and lenses adds a magical aspect to the whole affair. The sweat running down my brow on summer nights gives the impression of valuable work in progress. The success or failure of a session equally fill a space within me needs to be filled with the feeling of having attempted something profound.

The images I see appear as old friends. Whether I have ever seen that particular object or not, the effect is the same. It is like a conversation between me and the object, especially with open clusters, each having their own pattern and message. I often stare for long periods, and listen for any reply. It is surprising how fulfilling this can be aside from studying scientific data concerning the object viewed. It is a recognition, an acknowledgement, an identification with the Creator who greets me personally and calls me by my name.

This may sound too subjective or romantic for some people, but it's who I am as an astronomer, by whatever measure I may be so named one.

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--Russell

"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)


Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces




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llanitedave
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Loc: Amargosa Valley, NV, USA
Re: The Experience new [Re: RussL]
      #2571374 - 08/10/08 12:46 AM

I usually set up my scope in the backyard before dark, just to make sure the collimation gets any necessary tweaking. I often do have an observing plan for the night, but just as often stray from it. Sometimes my wife comes out for a while, and we share some of her favorite objects, then she goes inside and lets me have it to myself.

I'm lucky enough to live under fairly dark skies, with the Milky Way showing loads of naked-eye detail. Every now and then, I'll just get to staring at the vastness of the sky above me, and forget to look through the telescope. Sometimes a curious night critter will show up, or the bats and poor-wills will put on a show silhouetted against the star clouds.

Almost always, the feeling is primal. I'm not just looking out at the cosmos, I'm part of the cosmos, and I feel like a small but respected participant in the unfolding of the universe, not just an observer.

When I finish up for the evening, put the scope away, and go inside, as often as not it's not because I'm physically tired, but because I'm so overwhelmed with awe and amazement at what's out there -- and in here -- that my poor brain simply starts to shut down from sheer emotional overload.

You just can't bottle that kind of experience.

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"S.O.E." (Sauron's Other Eye) 16" Royce conical mirror: A permanent work in progress.
10" Homebuilt dob, old Coulter mirror


Next Project: The "Eye of Sauron" Observatory!


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maureenford
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Loc: New Paltz, NY
Re: The Experience new [Re: llanitedave]
      #2572231 - 08/10/08 02:05 PM

For me the experience is the high point of my day - or in this case my night. I look forward to observing and check various weather sites in the day time. I may sometimes view Stellarium to plan my viewing but more often I'll refer to my notes or reference books. I usually do the "eye candy" first and then focus on one or two constellations going as deep as I can. I end with a wide eyed view through the Milky Way. Most recently with my 13mm Ethos. I've been doing it for 11 years, certainly not as long as some of the "old pros", but long enough to know my way around the sky. Ultimately, for me it is a profoundly moving experience. It touches that part of me that goes beyond the "words and ideas", beyond the linear sequential thought process. It takes me to a place like no other. It fills me with awe and leaves me with "no words to say."
Maureen

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Discovery 12.5" TD on Scopebuggy
with Argo Navis and Feathertouch focuser
27mmPan, 13mm & 8mmEthos, 6mm Radian
Howie Glatter laser and Blug
Coronado PST


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kaaikop
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Reged: 07/13/08
Posts: 468
Loc: Ste-Therese, Canada
Re: The Experience new [Re: maureenford]
      #2572392 - 08/10/08 03:23 PM

Quote:

For me the experience is the high point of my day - or in this case my night. I look forward to observing and check various weather sites in the day time. I may sometimes view Stellarium to plan my viewing but more often I'll refer to my notes or reference books. I usually do the "eye candy" first and then focus on one or two constellations going as deep as I can. I end with a wide eyed view through the Milky Way. Most recently with my 13mm Ethos. I've been doing it for 11 years, certainly not as long as some of the "old pros", but long enough to know my way around the sky. Ultimately, for me it is a profoundly moving experience. It touches that part of me that goes beyond the "words and ideas", beyond the linear sequential thought process. It takes me to a place like no other. It fills me with awe and leaves me with "no words to say."
Maureen




This is poetry
Very well written Maureen!

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Benoit, RASC Montreal

-C 9.25XLT on EQ6 Pro / ED80SF on Portamount
-Plossls, Radians, Naglers, LVW's & Orthos.
-a pair of 7x50's


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Mike B
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Loc: shake, rattle, & roll, CA
Re: The Experience new [Re: maureenford]
      #2572653 - 08/10/08 05:27 PM

Quote:

It fills me with awe and leaves me with "no words to say."



Maureen-
For someone having "no words to say", y'all surely said it well! What might you come up with should you *HAVE* words to say?
mike b

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Just for giggles- Next time when the money comes out the ATM, scream "I Won!, I Won!"

* * 15" F4.55 Starsplitter Dob * *

Pacheco State Park
Fremont Peak


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RussL
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Reged: 03/18/08
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Loc: Cayce, SC
Re: The Experience new [Re: maureenford]
      #2573440 - 08/10/08 11:29 PM

Quote:

It fills me with awe and leaves me with "no words to say."




The very reason that I must sit and listen to what the heavens say to me.

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--Russell

"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)


Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces




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TexBiker
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Reged: 12/18/07
Posts: 130
Loc: North Texas
Re: The Experience new [Re: RussL]
      #2573498 - 08/11/08 12:04 AM

For me, it's simply relaxing. I'm a stay-at-home dad with a 10 month old son. When he goes to bed, I just go outside and scan the sky with my old 10x50 binoculars. If something catches my eye, I'll take out the Mak or the Dob and look a little closer.

No real ritual or plan. I don't go out with a specific target in mind. I don't even care to know exactly what I'm looking at. Knowing the name won't change my enjoyment of the view. I just like looking at the night sky.

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Michael
Dallas, TX


Orion 127mm Mak-Cass
Orion 10" Dob




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Mr. Mike
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 11/08/05
Posts: 858
Loc: Churchville, NY
Re: The Experience new [Re: BlakeAF]
      #2573991 - 08/11/08 10:05 AM

I setup my light-cup refractor about 15 mintes before the observing session begins. Not much to setup which is great. I sometimes will have a viewing "plan" which usually consists of picking out an area of the sky or a few consteallations in the same area and then I go from there. I do this because to remain seated I have to adjust the tripod legs of my setup if I have to point higher or lower in the sky. For example, Lyra & Hercules are fairly close so I'll spend time in those first....then, I might switch to Sagittarius & Ophiuchus.... etc, etc.

Not much to it....just setup and start viewing. I KNOW Im having a good night if I completely lose track of time and glance at the watch and realize its 2am! YIPPIE!

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Stellarvue NG 80mm ED
Meade 7x50 Binos
Pentax XW 5mm
Meade 5K UWA 8.8mm
Vixen LVW 13mm
Vixen LVW 22mm


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bemusabord
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Reged: 06/03/08
Posts: 100
Loc: western NY
Re: The Experience [Re: Mr. Mike]
      #2581733 - 08/14/08 06:29 PM

I love dusk on the observing field at CSSP. It takes me all of 3 or 4 minutes to set-up and then I just sit back and enjoy the coming of night. For some reason these lines from Shakespeare's Henry V always come to mind .....

"Piercing the night’s dull ear, and from the tents
The armourers, accomplishing the knights,
With busy hammers closing rivets up,
Give dreadful note of preparation."

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Thom B. - Stargaze Cherry Springs
Happily Infected With Anti-Aperture Fever!
Orion Eon 80ED w/ AstroTech Voyager
PICHELOUP Couch Potato Telescope
Celestron Ultima 8x42
Canon IS 15x45


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