InterStellarGuy
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I found a website:
http://theflatearthsociety.org
I was truly un aware before reading this site...i cant believe there are still people who truly belive the Earth is flat!!!!!
So I thought to myself "What about all the pictures from Space showing Earth is round?"
Well. I read their FAQ and it alleges NASA is part of a giant conspiracy to keep Earth's flatness a secret..
I cant believe there are actually people who believe this...
What could they possibly use as scientific basis? They also on their website deny the existence of gravity!
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jayscheuerle
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I believe that all conspiracy theorists are secretly working together to project an image of mankind's having a steadily decreasing intelligence level. For what reason I'm not sure... - j
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star drop
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Da Earth, she's a round, like-a my butt.  Thats all the proof I need.
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Scott K
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I cant believe there are actually people who believe this...
What could they possibly use as scientific basis? They also on their website deny the existence of gravity!
Some points:
1. Obviously they have no scientific basis. They just believe what they want to believe.
2. People believe in an absolutely astounding variety of things that aren't true. These guys are unusually stupid and/or crazy, but that's about all you can say.
3. If they somehow get this into state legislatures as an "alternative" explanation to the THEORY of gravitation in public schools (It's not TRUE because it's a THEORY!!11!!!1!!!) then maybe worrying about it is in order. In that case, I'd suggest we nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure... 
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ericjacob613
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Loc: Santa Barbara CA
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There's another Flat Earth thread in the Off-Topic Forum with some links.
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llanitedave
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3. If they somehow get this into state legislatures as an "alternative" explanation to the THEORY of gravitation in public schools (It's not TRUE because it's a THEORY!!11!!!1!!!) then maybe worrying about it is in order.
They just want their fair chance... Teach the controversy!
All you have to do is set up some bogus "controversy", fund an Institute to call itself a think tank, and hire apologists to make wordy, reasonable-sounding (to the uneducated) "refutations" to biased mainstream science, and then claim the moral high ground. Equate scientists to Nazis, have Ben Stein make a movie about how evil Nazi scientists are "Expelling" open-minded, moral, and pious flat-earthers from academic positions, and point out a couple of prominent scientists and authors as representatives of the evil empire.
You'll have a fairly large voter demographic eating out of your hand (and sending in donations) in no time! 
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LadyAstronomer
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You da man, Dave! 
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Allen
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Loc: Monroe, Georgia
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While eavesdropping on a conversation of {let's say it was science} in the biscuit shop, where the great minds in my small town gather to discuss weighty topics over their morning coffee, a philosophical question I recently encountered came to mind.
Posit the question: Which is the shallower fountain of knowledge, one person talking about something of which they know nothing, or two people talking about something of which they know nothing? Is it possible for two people to form a Gestalt of vapidness, where they in combination actually know less than either would on their own?
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Nick Lloyd
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If they somehow get this into state legislatures as an "alternative" explanation to the THEORY of gravitation in public schools (It's not TRUE because it's a THEORY!!11!!!1!!!)
That's called Intelligent Falling.
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MRoedel
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Reged: 11/10/06
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Loc: Michigan
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I'm just a simple country boy. Is it 'politically incorrect' to make fun of stupid or ignorant people?
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gazerjim
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Earth simply looks round in NASA photos due to gravitational lensing. 
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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llanitedave
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I'm just a simple country boy. Is it 'politically incorrect' to make fun of stupid or ignorant people?
Well, there's those that, through no fault of their own, simply don't have the intelligence, education, or interest to see past their own game consoles.
There's also those who have every reason to know better, but choose ignorance as a sacred calling.
There's a third group who's learned that it can make easy money off the first two.
I think it's clear who deserves being the butt of many jokes.
But not on Cloudy Nights, of course. 
Just remember, however, when it comes to ignorance, each of us shares the same limitation:
Knowledge will always be finite. Ignorance, even for the most educated and scholarly among us, is always infinite.
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InterStellarGuy
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Loc: Nebraska
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wow scott...you have 666 posts O_O
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AZKick
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Now wait a minute here. I have learned a lot here on CN, and one of the things a learned was that only 2 shapes fit together perfectly, a sphere and a flat. (Mirror grinding 101) Now I got to thinking, and I took my 2 foot level and placed it on the ground. Guess what? It fit perfectly. So just to make sure, I got out my big 6 footer and had the same results. Both my levels are flat, so that means the Earth is flat, right? I mean, those guys in the ATM forum aren't giving me false info, are they?
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Jarad
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Now wait a minute here. I have learned a lot here on CN, and one of the things a learned was that only 2 shapes fit together perfectly, a sphere and a flat. (Mirror grinding 101) Now I got to thinking, and I took my 2 foot level and placed it on the ground. Guess what? It fit perfectly. So just to make sure, I got out my big 6 footer and had the same results. Both my levels are flat, so that means the Earth is flat, right? I mean, those guys in the ATM forum aren't giving me false info, are they?
You just answered your own question. If your level is a flat, then the earth must be a sphere.
If you put a ball on the ground and it fit, then the earth would be a flat.
See? Science at work!
Jarad
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Edited by Jarad (08/17/08 10:57 AM)
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j3ffr0
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Reged: 07/06/08
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Loc: Virginia
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I think the site is likely a hoax, or a study to see how many people the operators can actually convince of the nonsense. The poor souls who buy into are probably poorly educated people who have never flown in a plane, and the sad joke is on them. 
One day those who have been duped by this site will think just a little for themselves and... 
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AZKick
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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Hey Jarad, You are right, I did say a sphere and a flat, didn't I? Oh well, so much for my journey into the science of the Earth being flat. I'm just going to go back to my old thinking of a round Earth and all. (And now I need a new globe, after crushing my old one flat and all)
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llanitedave
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I wonder how many of those flat-earthers have a satellite dish?
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gazerjim
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I took my 2 foot level
Sounds like something is warped here.
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Henry J. Tillman
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JerryWise
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Einstein spent a lot of time getting us to stay within out "frames of reference". Within their frame of reference the flat earthers may well be right. In the Walmart parking lot I see no indication the Earth is round. A great effort went into making that surface flat. From that frame of reference the Earth is flat. So there it is.
You can also easily prove the Earth is flat. Place a ball bearing on a perfectly level and flat parking lot. It stays perfectly still as it would on a flat surface. If it were on a rounded surface it would roll away.
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