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markseibold
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To all
Well, they never turn out the same. I had planned to detail the entire surface of the waning gibbous moon. After 2 hours between midnight and 2 AM 7-20-08 and much toil and chalk laden hands, I decided to concentrate on my first close-up. The whole surface was done in old world color and not blended entirely. This was also unplanned and possibly seen as unfinished if left this way, false color.
Can someone tell me what this edge region is? From my moon charts, I discovered that I am an amateur lunar observer when it comes to the names of geographic features, with the exception of course, the well known central region.
Thanks for any info, questions, comments, criticisms.
Mark
*Canson Mi Tientes Indigo Blue 20" X 24" paper, various antique hard pastel chalks and new Eberhard Faber white chalk pencil.
*Observation through Nexstar 5i with 32mm plossl and 9.7mm plossl eyepieces. ( I meant to add this separate larger inset image earlier ) >
Edited by markseibold (07/21/08 03:22 AM)
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rolandlinda3
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I like it. Nice artistic impression. Those 4 craters are very nice at this juncture of the cycle. We have worked from a 5i so try just the 4 sometime also. Roland
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frank5817
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Mark, Excellent sketching. The craters in your high power close up are: I.Langrenus, II. Vendelinus, III. Petavius, IV. Furnerius. All beautifully done.
Frank
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Erix
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Very well done indeed and instantly recognizable.
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markseibold
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Loc: Portland Oregon
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Roland, Frank and Erika
Thanks for the compliments and info. I forgot to mention that the reason this rendering took me 2 hours; twice as long as the previous ones of the moon last week here, is that I decided to do a 10 1/2 inch sized disc- Also the length of the detail inset, which by the way, the inset detail was easily completed in about 15 ~ 20 minutes and not really as accurate as I intended- It was done within the total time on the whole disc as a break from that mind boggling attempt to do the whole moon.
The whole disc image however was an arduous attempt to completely free-hand the entire area so I think I got some of the maria and craters slightly out of proper position. I must convey to others now, if ever there was a moon whole-surface-marathon to be sketched you will not believe how much detail there is across the entire surface to capture in moving the chalk and then deciding how many colors to 'leave out'. Obviously I got carried away with 'color' so that part of the sketch became more so an impression but I tried to render all of the details that I could possibly get in until just after 2 AM; after taking a break for tea (caffeine) and strained in the dark with an LED flashlight to illuminate the pastel paper, dew began to build and the paper slightly warping with moisture, I became weary and was beginning to nod off at the telescope. 'Chalk until you drop!'
-Mark
PS: I am not a big fan (yet?) of the website for Coast to Coast AM Talk Radio, but I saw an abstract rendering of the sun there by an artist a few days ago. I inquired and sent their site my info. They have agreed to show some of my abstract impressions there soon. So the entire world of space science conspiracy discussion will be influenced by my art soon I suppose. I guess I could convince them all to start sketching and increase their observational skills? -M
Edited by markseibold (07/21/08 06:39 PM)
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perfessor
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Mark, it's a beautiful drawing; I love the subtle splashes of colors. I also love the two levels of magnification; it's a great perspective.
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PS: I am not a big fan (yet?) of the website for Coast to Coast AM Talk Radio, but I saw an abstract rendering of the sun there by an artist a few days ago. I inquired and sent their site my info. They have agreed to show some of my abstract impressions there soon. So the entire world of space science conspiracy discussion will be influenced by my art soon I suppose. I guess I could convince them all to start sketching and increase their observational skills? -M
Submit a sketch, with a tiny lunar rover sketched in at an appropriate location! That'll get them going!
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markseibold
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Tom
Thanks, I was hoping someone might enjoy the color as I was working in near dark, I did not realize what I had done until daylight the next morning. I was afraid I overdid it and others might have thought I embellished it with too much passion and low and behold it became only art.
That is when I decided to add the inset detail. I was literally overwhelmed at about an hour into the whole moon sketch when I paused for a spot of tea and the air stilled and the seeing became well defined, crisp, stunning and inspiring. A cool humid air moved over the neighborhood. I increased magnification to about 180 and WOW, that broken terminator edge was really happening! It looked three dimensional in the eyepiece. I wanted to stand up near the sidewalk and yell to all the neighbors: "I'm impressed as all heck and I want you all to get out here and take this in all the more!" 
But instead I decided to start the close-up detail. I can see now why others do this. I think the radio next to me outside on a local independent station was playing a classic John Cage 'Bird Cage' track, a weird 1970's sampling, a spacey menagerie, so I turned it up – This is what may have accounted for the wild color in the whole disc composition. My friends were impressed but I was the one looking at the moon through the telescope, and simultaneously listening to this wild collage of underground 1970's music samples, rearranging my minds eyes if only for a second or two. It was like actually being in outer space on some trip and back to the past; our future?
Coast to Coast just emailed me and announced they will run one of my pieces on their site front page next week. I am not sure which one yet. It could be very wild and not one that Spaceweather already ran- As for sketching a lunar rover on the moons surface, did I not put that in there? Find Waldo? . . . I do have a sense of humor but I have been told that it is very dry; as dry as chalk.
Let the cosmic energy of the universe be your guide! Keep looking up and in all directions . . . even when it is cloudy!
-Mark
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CarlosEH
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Mark,
A beautiful observation of the Moon and the lunar terminator. You have rendered both impressively. The Moon appears to glow in your observation. Thank you for sharing them with us all.
Carlos
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markseibold
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Carlos and all
Thanks again for your encouraging comments. With all of the favorable responses here, the web master at Coast to Coast AM will even post one of my recent images soon; the webmaster at Spaceweather.com has requested that I disclose what materialas I use and "how do I do it?" as he is inspired to try sketching now, he claims "I am inspired by your art work Mark and how you attain this illumination quality of light", I guess I should enter this into the sketching forum monthly contest.
I just read the rules written by Erika and Charlie. I cannot see where it indicates anything about how many images can be submitted to one forum (this being the sketching forum). Can someone inform me?
I would assume that I could submit a few images? Am I reading that right?
I'll look forward to any responses,
thanks,
Mark
Edited by markseibold (07/29/08 07:02 PM)
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markseibold
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I meant to respond to and thank Tom's suggestion about adding a Lunar Rover and Frank, thanks for labeling the crater names.
I have to be grateful for the three images of my pastel work that they posted to their front page at Coast to Coast AM for three days (I am still there in their front page archive list.) I have inquired about displaying future work there if they are interested.
I am not sure I will embellish a lunar rover to the moons surface but I did hand hold my digital camera over the telescope eyepiece about a year ago just to capture the lunar terminator at partial phase- As I pressed the shutter, ironically, an earth orbit satellite passed in front of the moon. My photo shows a small black silhouette with an appendage or antennae. I'll find that photo soon and post it somewhere here-I am not sure which forum? Any suggestions?
Thanks again Frank,
Mark
Edited by markseibold (08/06/08 01:53 AM)
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WadeVC
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MArk,
Very nice indeed...impressive sketches that are easily recognizable and a pleasure to look at. Keep em' coming!
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markseibold
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To all
At the risk of regenerating an old post for the purpose to thank all who voted for my work - I am not sure how to get to the new contest poll results without a friend sending me the link as I do not see it in the Sketching Forum lines- Here is the link to the reults announcing the winners > http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2575946/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all
I also wanted to thank those new to the forum who voted but I see none of the contestants responding there to thank them so I am posting here again in the original sketching post- I hope that is OK.
> To all Aug 19, '08
I just wanted to thank any and all who voted from my art-work. I was shocked that I was the only artwork that made it against so many photographers in the winners circle for the July Sketching/Imaging Contest. I am not sure how that early runner-up entry count worked as I did not see many of these other great photography artworks there. Also I cannot see this forum line of the results; I just received it as a hyperlink from a friend last night and I am waiting to hear how she found it. It does not come up in the forum lists for sketching. Can someone tell me why?
Aside from those here who already praised my lunar sketch (thanks again!) If any of you who voted for my sketch could either send a brief message as to why you chose an artwork over photographs, I would like to hear from you. I am trying to work up a study, perhaps a dissertation on the importance of old world classic artistic mediums process and its possible comparative applications over the new digital technology (and photography.) Not that I am against photo imaging as I have done that with award winning results too.
I was humbled and impressed that one person, expressed that my work should be framed and up on their wall. I am not sure of the protocols here, but I have sold a few of my artworks as prints and I am willing to do that again, although I know this is not the venue for a sales gallery. I would ask those, would you like to see more art like this? Will someone inform me regarding these questions?
Also, I could not find the forum line link for these sketching contest results. I do not see it in the sketching contest poll line of the forum. Could someone inform me why I cannot find it?
FInally I wanted to congratulate the photographer imagers. All the works here in the contest are great. The whole Milky Way in the sky is beautifully done with the water reflection by weatherandsky. The M13 image by Jared is mesmerizing! It is comparable among the best of the professional observatories and I would include the Hubble!. The Trifid Nebula by Nils Lars and the Orion region by huckabuck, both with moderate equipment are great feats of photographic accomplishment.
When I look at that Jupiter image by iceman, I realize that amateur photographic imaging in astronomy is now equaling if not surpassing the professionals of only a couple decades ago. I only wish I could see Jupiter that well live in my eyepiece! Perhaps moving to Australia with its higher ecliptic. Reminds me of when I was in Fiji a few years ago.
Thanks again to all,
Mark
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