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Poppy
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Reged: 11/03/07
Posts: 15
Loc: Sierra foothills, No. Ca.
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I recently started viewing with an older Nexstar 5. A result of a recent birthday, I've assembled an assortment of eyepieces (listed below) but still struggle with when to use which & why. I do get the most basic concept but still am quite overwhelmed and more than a bit confused. Some comments, criticisms, and/or guidance would be helpful and much appreciated. I'd also have to ask if there are eyepieces that would be more practical?
Jim
Celestron Excel 5mm
Baader Hyperion 8mm, 13mm, 21mm
Meade series 4000 32mm
Baader filters
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steveeb
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Reged: 05/06/08
Posts: 209
Loc: Murrieta, CA
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Simple answer: The shorter the focal length of the eyepiece(the 5mm is your shortest) the greater the magnification but the narrower the field of view - similar to a camera zoom lens. So if you use the 5mm, you are zoomed all the way in. However, one thing to note, the shorter eyepieces will not transmit as much light to your eye so the same object in the 5mm will appear dimmer, albeit bigger, than the 32mm.
-------------------- Steve
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Midnight Dan
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Reged: 01/23/08
Posts: 619
Loc: Brockport, NY
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OK, let's start with some basics. Your scope has a 5" aperture and a 1250mm focal length. A rule of thumb is that your maximum useful magnification is about 50 times your aperture which for you is about 250x. Keep in mind that more often than not the useful magnification will be limited by atmoshperic conditions so a more common maximum for you scope might be in the 150x to 200x range.
The magnification you can get from an eyepieces is equal to the scope's focal length divided by the eyepiece's focal length. So for your eyepieces:
Celestron 5mm = 250x Baader 8mm = 156x Baader 13mm = 96x Baader 21mm = 60x Meade 32mm = 39x
With this information, you can now get a better idea of what to use the eyepieces for. The first thing to notice is that the 5mm is right at the limit of you scope's magnification. Most nights you won't get much out of it. You'll probably see the same thing that you'd see in the Baader 8mm, just larger - but no more detail. This is known as empty magnification.
In most cases, when you GoTo and object with your scope, you'll want to use a lower power EP in the 40-75x range to locate your object since it may not be right in the middle after a GoTo operation. Then you'll ramp up to the magnification that lets you see it best. This is different for different objects since they are different sizes.
With planets, you'll probably want to use your highest useable EP which will likely be the 8mm at 156x. You can try the 5mm, but the Baader is a better quality and will probably show more detail.
Globular clusters need low magnifications to find, but respond well to higher magnifications if you have enough aperture to keep them bright. Note that higher magnifications mean less light. You'll probably end up viewing them at 100 to 150x
Galaxies are mostly small, but they are also dim. So while you'll want to go to a higher mag, you'll be limited by how much light you can see. Andromeda is an exception and is SO large that you'll need one of the lower mags, probably the 60x or 39x to fit it in the eyepiece.
Nebulae are all over the map. Some are huge and need low power, others are small and need higher power. Again, many of them are quite dim so you might be limited here just like the Galaxies.
I hope this helps!
-Dan
-------------------- Scopes: Celestron NexStar 8, Orion EON 72mm ED/APO on Astroview mount (EQ3)
Eyepieces: Celestron 40mm, 25mm, Baader Hyperion 13mm, 8mm, 5mm
Other: Telrad, 2x Barlow, 0.63x Focal Reducer, Dew-not strips, DewBuster controller
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kaaikop
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Reged: 07/13/08
Posts: 467
Loc: Ste-Therese, Canada
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That's a nice set of eyepieces you got there. From one beginner to the other, I would just suggest you try all your eyepieces on one subject at a time, from the lowest mag. to the highest until you find the most satisfying view, and then take note of it.
Try to keep it to the easiest subjects to begin, and just a few per nights (M13, M57, Jupiter, Moon, etc.) you will get familiar with them.
Hope that helps, Clear skies!
-------------------- Benoit, RASC Montreal
-C 9.25XLT on EQ6 Pro / ED80SF on Portamount
-Plossls, Radians, Naglers, LVW's & Orthos.
-a pair of 7x50's
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smasraum
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Reged: 01/13/08
Posts: 492
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Generally, start with the 21 or 32. Then try the next smaller, then if it still looks good, go to the next size down, etc....
Usually stuff is brighter in the bigger EP, but then seems dimmer and bigger in the smaller. As stated, the moon and planets (Jupiter and Saturn especially) will be fine with the 8 and 5. Other stuff like nebula, and galaxies will possibly be very difficult to see in those two. Globular clusters may take the higher mags afforded by the smaller EP. Open Clusters will probably be cropped by the smaller EP.
-------------------- Steve
Houston (Friendswood), TX
Space Center Houston
8" Zhumell Dob - Woo Hoo!!
Celestron C102 f/5 - Thanks Tim!
21mm, 13mm Hyperion
2.5x TV Powermate
Canon Rebel XT
Nikon 7x35
Bushnell 10x50
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Doug L
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Reged: 08/17/08
Posts: 122
Loc: Ottawa, Canada
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There is no magic "perfect" eyepiece to use on particular objects. A lot of it boils down to individual preference. Sometimes I use the highest magnification that fits the object comfortably in the field of view, and othertimes I like looking at the same object with lower mags. inside a field of stars or with other objects in the same view. Occasionally I use very high magnifications to look at small areas inside large objects. Just keep experimenting.
-------------------- Bino reality... 1 + 1 > 2
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