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My 12" has arrived, what to check for...
      #2614 - 05/30/03 11:58 AM

My new 12" (I'm going to name it "Lone Star") is now resting at The Observatory in Dallas Texas. This place will open the box and check it out in your pressence to make sure it works correctly. Can anyone suggest a checklist to go through to make sure it checks out all right? I'm going to hate it if I have to send it back .
Thanks,
Chad


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Re: My 12" has arrived, what to check for... new [Re: Anonymous]
      #2626 - 05/30/03 02:27 PM

Having just gone through this a week ago, I have some experience in the area.

Contrary to the feeling of dread I got from reading reports of bad out-of-box quality, mine was perfect - hope yours is too. Please post to let people know your experience so we get current data points.

My initial checkout was done indoors, so I did not wait for the GPS fix. You may wish to go outdoors but make sure to keep both the scope and finder covered if its during daylight.

What I did was to set up the tripod and place the scope on it - not too difficult for one person in reasonable condition. The base centers well when you raise the bolt into the conical depression in the base. I find you really have to crank the tripod bolt or its too easy to actually spin the base on the tripod - those surfaces seem to be very slippery.

Unlock the axes (be careful in the altitude axis - its nose-heavy even with the finder, focuser, diagonal and 26mm EP, so support the tube) and check the free movement. You will have almost two full rotations in azimuth. The movement on mine was super-smooth. Lock the axes again - not too tight. I recommend you install a tube balance kit ASAP - I put on rails from Scopestuff right away and I have 2 lbs of weight at the mirror end of the bottom rail.

Home position (the way you orient it before applying power) is tube level and base panel on south side. Make sure the azimuth is right in the middle of its range - this is critical. You should get almost a full rotation back around to north in azimuth in both directions. If not, the GOTO slews will run into the hard stops and make horrible noises causing heart failure. If that happens, unlock the azimuth immediately and start over. This has happened to me once - and once is quite enough to hear that noise!

Make sure you're not too near a large lump of metal like the truck you came to pick it up in. The iron mass may prevent the north sensor from finding magnetic north and again it might spin into an azimuth hard stop looking for north. This has also happened to me once, and I already knew I didn't like that noise!

Check mirror travel. Unlock by turning the lock knob to unlock (takes several turns to reach the end of the travel). Turn the focus knob. I have exactly 30 turns of adjustment (although its hard to count without a marking on the knob).

Turn it on (you did hook up power, right?). Note: forget about C cells - you'll go broke because it will get nowhere near 20 hours out of a set.

The Autostar will go through its initialization and show its firmware version - mine came with 1.6b from the factory, which is still the latest. You have to acknowledge the silly Sun warning every time. Fortunately, the key (in my case '5') it wants you to press is not random (at least not in my experience) so you can short-circuit that process by just stabbing at that key when the nearly unreadable message starts to scroll.

It will then start searching, first for north (this is where it could try to slew more than a full turn if the sensor couldn't find north near the home position) then for level (it will tip the tube up and down several times near level - you will hear a small click from the side of the fork with the GPS housing on it as the mechanical sensor passes through level), then for mount tilt and tip (similar to finding tube level, but at two locations separated by 90 degress of azimuth).

Then it will try to get the GPS fix. For me, this took several minutes but I'm a lot farther from California than you are (the place it last saw the satellites) - subsequent fixes from the same or similar locations are very fast. If you are not outdoors where you can get a GPS fix, you can abort this by pressing Enter and entering the approximate information manually.

You can try an alignment, but without stars it may be tough unless you just tell it you found the allignment star when it asks. Play with the slew on both axes and at all speeds (press 'speed' and one of the numbers to set the speed). Check the focuser by pressing 'focus' to enter focuser control mode (you did attach it and plug it in?) and use the same slew keys to run it in and out. It only has one inch of travel. To adjust the focuser speed, press 'focus' (if not already in that mode) and use the up/down arrow keys at the bottom to select one of the 4 speeds. Note, you need to press 'focus' (or maybe 'speed') again to leave focuser control mode and return to slewing mode.

That should be it. Have fun - I am!

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Re: My 12" has arrived, what to check for... new [Re: DaveSchwartz]
      #2641 - 05/30/03 06:13 PM

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You have to acknowledge the silly Sun warning every time. Fortunately, the key (in my case '5') it wants you to press is not random (at least not in my experience) so you can short-circuit that process by just stabbing at that key when the nearly unreadable message starts to scroll.



You can disable the sun warnig In the utilities menu. It does get annoying

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Then it will try to get the GPS fix. For me, this took several minutes but I'm a lot farther from California than you are (the place it last saw the satellites) - subsequent fixes from the same or similar locations are very fast. If you are not outdoors where you can get a GPS fix, you can abort this by pressing Enter and entering the approximate information manually.



If the GPS times out before it gets a fix (about 10 min.) You can manually enter your site before taking the fix and this will give the GPS a better idea where the sats are and it won't time out.

After your done with the initial setup and playing around. (The fun part) Don't forget to train the drives (in RA and DEC) and calibrate the sensors. This will help get the alignment stars closer to the center ( or closer to the finderscopes FOV). If you can train the drives with a reticle eyepiece on polaris all the better. Just don't overshoot the center while trianing or you have to start over.

Have great fun with your new scope and keep us informed of your progress!

Craig



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Re: My 12" has arrived, what to check for... new [Re: Anonymous]
      #3343 - 06/12/03 09:50 PM

Hi;

I don't know what your experience level is but mine was zip when I purchased my 12" LX200GPS UHTC last August. I learned everything the hard way. I would expect your scope came in good condition because Meade does pack them well. After a careful visual inspection set it up outside during the late afternoon when the sun is not directly on it. Set it up in a area where you will be able to point it at an object at least 300 meters or greater. Level the tripod with a level. I found this improves pointing accuracy, but I have never seen anything to confirm it. When you mount the scope try to set it on the tripod so that when the tube is horizontal to the ground it points north. After the system intinalizes itself and you press 5 to get out of the sun warning press the mode button until you get out of the alignment mode. Slew the scope to your object and align your starfinder and scope to the same target. I recommend not using the diagonal at this time. Then go into setup and under telescope and press drive training. I believe this to be the most import thing other than proper collimation. This will greatly improve your pointing accuracy when the night comes. If you think your drive training wasn't done right just redo it. It took me a couple of tries before I got it down right. I hope you have a 9mm lens with the reticle to do the drive training with because you need it. For the collimantion, forget Meades instruction manual. It makes it out to be a math test. Go to MAGPUG and read the different articles on collimating. They make it much easier to understand and you don't have to rely on someone sticking their fingers on your front glass try to point to the collimating screws. After that Check and make sure you have the latest software load loaded. You should be ready for a good evening. Remember to do drive training often. I do it at least every month if I was lucky enough to get my scope out between five and ten times. I could write a book on the things I learned the hard way and I blame much of it on Meade's almost worthless instruction manual. Happy veiwing


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